*IMPORTANT* FRANCHISE TAG NEGOTIATIONS

BryceBruins · BRHL2 Co-Commish

Florida Panthers · Senior Member

Ok, I thought that this had been cleared up a while back and that it was an automatic one year extension at the same salary...

BryceBruins wrote:

We are opening the franchise tagging season, a slightly different process than RFA, please follow the guidelines.

1. Re-Read the franchise tag rules

2. If you want to use one of your tags, email BRYCE directly at bnshuck@yahoo.com with your offer.

3. Obviously since you are buying a UFA year of the players life, you need to negotiate, lay out your case, why he deserves the salary you're offering him etc....

4. Remember you only get 1 Lowe or Lemieux tag every 2 seasons. If you use it this season you cannot next year.

5. It is a 1 year extension you are signing, after which the player is UFA. Only players 31+ with 1 year left qualify this season.

6. The players MUST have been on your team since Day 1 of the BRHL2 season, otherwise he does not qualify for the tag. IF you attempt to tag someone that doesn't qualify, your team will be fined 200k

7. Please include all negotiations in ONE email. So if you have a guy you want to negotiate with for each teag, include them in the same email please, just keeps my inbox cleaner.

8. Expected turnaround is within 3-4 days.

IF you have any additional questions, please ask now. Essentially if you tag a player now, he has a no trade clause the rest of this season, as well as whatever no trade clause comes with the tag.

Bryce

-- Edited by BryceBruins at 11:06, 2007-01-09

Florida Panthers · Senior Member

Any response on this?

Like I posted, I had thought the tags were cleared up a long time ago and that it was an automatic one year extension at the same salary?

CBJackets · Guru

Frankly, along with the RFA signings, it's so stupid to be doing this right now. How can you even be sure who you want to tag right now? The NHL season is only half over, and there's still half a BRHL2 season to acquire a player you might like to tag after next season.

I realize it saves time in the summer, but we have a whole summer to do this kind of stuff, no?

Eric_Isles · BRHL2 Co-Commish

We're not forcing people to tag players. We're just announcing that the option to do so is now open. Same goes with RFAs.

Personally as a GM, I enjoy getting the opportunity to take care of contracts during the season. Gives me more options with my team and players as I see fit. RFA signings now aren't mandatory. We're just giving you guys the option to do so.

as for the tags, you're correct Kent it's a 1 year extention at the same salary.

-- Edited by Eric_Calgary at 20:23, 2007-01-13

Florida Panthers · Senior Member

ok, so there's no "negotiation" needed then. We just let the league know we're Tagging Player X...

Philippe27 · Guru

Eric_Calgary wrote:

We're not forcing people to tag players. We're just announcing that the option to do so is now open. Same goes with RFAs.

Personally as a GM, I enjoy getting the opportunity to take care of contracts during the season. Gives me more options with my team and players as I see fit. RFA signings now aren't mandatory. We're just giving you guys the option to do so.

as for the tags, you're correct Kent it's a 1 year extention at the same salary.

-- Edited by Eric_Calgary at 20:23, 2007-01-13

What? That's not what Bryce posted and that's not what the rule says:
"Unrestricted player negotiations are not limited to an amount of negotiations like RFA. All Unrestricted negotiations will go through Bryce and Eric."

That's in the tag section and negotiation doesn,t mean automatic 1 year extension.

Florida Panthers · Senior Member

Philippe27 wrote:

What? That's not what Bryce posted and that's not what the rule says:
"Unrestricted player negotiations are not limited to an amount of negotiations like RFA. All Unrestricted negotiations will go through Bryce and Eric."

That's in the tag section and negotiation doesn,t mean automatic 1 year extension.

That's exactly why I brought it up a long time ago, and was sure that it was clarified as being a 1 year extension at the same salary. The way the rules are written, it's not clear. What's the point of having a tag, that you can use to keep an UFA for a year, if you have to "negotiate" on it? What if the player doesn't agree to any negotiation? Does that mean your tag goes unused? Does it mean the tag is used, and the player sits out a year? There's not much point in having a tag if you have to negotiate anything.

Philippe27 · Guru

Florida Panthers wrote:

Philippe27 wrote:

What? That's not what Bryce posted and that's not what the rule says:
"Unrestricted player negotiations are not limited to an amount of negotiations like RFA. All Unrestricted negotiations will go through Bryce and Eric."

That's in the tag section and negotiation doesn,t mean automatic 1 year extension.

That's exactly why I brought it up a long time ago, and was sure that it was clarified as being a 1 year extension at the same salary. The way the rules are written, it's not clear. What's the point of having a tag, that you can use to keep an UFA for a year, if you have to "negotiate" on it? What if the player doesn't agree to any negotiation? Does that mean your tag goes unused? Does it mean the tag is used, and the player sits out a year? There's not much point in having a tag if you have to negotiate anything.

Well it does mean you get priority to resign the player and a 10% discount and it makes no sense for a UFA to resign at the same salary. RFA's won't even do that.

VanIslander · Guru

Philippe27 wrote:

Well it does mean you get priority to resign the player and a 10% discount and it makes no sense for a UFA to resign at the same salary. RFA's won't even do that.

Old guys have signed lesser contracts to stay in a particular city. That's the loyalty factor.

Philippe27 · Guru

VanIslander wrote:

Philippe27 wrote:

Well it does mean you get priority to resign the player and a 10% discount and it makes no sense for a UFA to resign at the same salary. RFA's won't even do that.

Old guys have signed lesser contracts to stay in a particular city. That's the loyalty factor.

Lesser yes ie the 10% and the the priority on the player. Sam salary as he had the year before? no

Pittsburgh GM · Senior Member

Seems to me this all could have been avoided by making all UFA contracts for at least two years at draft time, This could still be done. Toss the tags, i feel it is a unwarranted problem the league need not experiment with and after the anaugaral season have UFA signings back to normal. I see no problem with GM's having the ability to negotiate or renegotiating any players deal during the gm's tenure with the team including UFA's. Of course the UFA would be much harder to sign but would stand a better chance at resigning with his current club if the situation was right for him aka: hometown, years of service ( loyalty factor ) how he is used or age all would be factors. If we are trying to go NHL based then what the hell are tags anyhow ? First season allow the extra term at the price except retirees. This is a one time thing to help the team be established and then go from there. This seems to me to be the right way to do this.

-- Edited by Pittsburgh GM at 13:58, 2007-01-14

Eric_Isles · BRHL2 Co-Commish

one reason we can't do this is we don't want to give any subjectivity to UFA signings. Since it is a cash league. We (Bryce and I) don't want to influence where UFAs sign. That's why we leave all of them to an open market and let that be the deciding factor, tags aside. We're letting the money dictate where UFAs sign, not our personal opinion.

The tags are there for your choice. If you want to keep a great player around for an extra year to take another run at the cup, we give you the option. If not, you don't have to. We're just giving you the option.

BryceBruins · BRHL2 Co-Commish

The tag portion is simply to allow teams to retain some of their UFA's for an extra year, we do not want to negotiate wholesale with UFAs because then you never see anyone on teh open market, and it makes UFA pretty much worthless.

Since Eric nor I really care how to do the tags, I'll lock this thread, put up a poll to vote if we should negotiate 1 year extensions, or simply just extend the player for 1 year at the current salary.

bryce