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Sabres


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I havent responded in this thread since the opening message, this is Aaron, but I think that FLA has a good point about two of the stats i left off, which obviously made it look more cut and dry. Obviously its not as cut and dry as Id have thought, but either way it just seems weird that the only two rookie goalies in the league that are getting any kind of starters minutes are atop of the calder race. I mean theres not another goalie on the list at all. Thats how its skewed.

As a side note, I think basically the xtrastats should determine 8 players or so that should go into a league vote at seasons end to determine the winner.

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Sabres wrote:

As a side note, I think basically the xtrastats should determine 8 players or so that should go into a league vote at seasons end to determine the winner.


If that's the way that we want to go with it, I don't have an issue with that... but if xtrastats are going to be used in any way (for the calder or any other award), there can't be continuous changing of formula's throughout the year. I'm sure it wouldn't make player #8 happy if he's suddenly bumped to player #11 because of change, even if it's halfway through the season...

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Florida Panthers wrote:


Sabres wrote:


As a side note, I think basically the xtrastats should determine 8 players or so that should go into a league vote at seasons end to determine the winner.




If that's the way that we want to go with it, I don't have an issue with that... but if xtrastats are going to be used in any way (for the calder or any other award), there can't be continuous changing of formula's throughout the year. I'm sure it wouldn't make player #8 happy if he's suddenly bumped to player #11 because of change, even if it's halfway through the season...

Yeah, definitely, and can we please fix the POTM formula. I'd like it changed back to the original formula that we were using at the start of the year, with the exception that games played for goalies is bumped up to 9 or 10.

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CBJackets wrote:

Yeah, definitely, and can we please fix the POTM formula. I'd like it changed back to the original formula that we were using at the start of the year, with the exception that games played for goalies is bumped up to 9 or 10.


I didn't know what the former POTW and POTM formulas were before the change, but I remember being in agreement with the above. But since I couldn't remember them, below is an idea I just proposed for the POTW formula (I didn't really check too much to see if it would work out for POTM as much...

(Winning percentage * 10) + (Save percentage * 17.5) + (2 ^ Shutouts)

A goalie will still essentially have to win all the games to have a chance, but given that there’s only 3 games, or 4 at the most, in real life a goalie isn’t like to win the POTW without winning all games, or at least 2 wins and a tie.

This new formula gives a goalie a max-out for points for POTW at 35.5 (if 3 games played) or 43.5 (if 4 games played). While the 43.5 might seem ridiculously high, let’s also realize that it means that the goalie in one week plays 4 games, and has shutouts in each of the 4 games. In either of the cases of 3 or 4 games being played, those are the MAX… and also being realistic, if any goalie gets 3 or 4 shutouts in a week, they deserve to win the POTW regardless of how a skater has done.

Let’s look at a more realistic situation though…

Goalie plays 3 games, wins them all. Has 1 shutout, and a save percentage of .940. A fantastic week, but not perfect. It would get him

(1.00x10), + (.940x17.5) +2 = 28.45. With 2 shutouts, it gives him 30.45.

Looking at past weeks, this doesn’t guarantee a win for a goalie, but does make it so that if a goalie plays great for the week, and has a fantastic save %, plus any shutouts, he’s going to have a very good shot. Which he should…

And on a side not out of curiousity... why does our "week" for POTW only have 6 days? or is that a preset with the FHL?

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