RFA Signings

CBJackets · Guru

RFA Signings

BryceBruins · BRHL2 Co-Commish

Correct, although the main advantage to starting negotiations early is that if you're not going to come to an agreement with a guy you would be able to shop him if you're not happy with what he is asking for.

There are a bunch of players right now who have rejected 2 offers from their teams and a couple that very likely could be testing the RFA waters.

Bryce

CBJackets · Guru

BryceBruins wrote:

Correct, although the main advantage to starting negotiations early is that if you're not going to come to an agreement with a guy you would be able to shop him if you're not happy with what he is asking for.

There are a bunch of players right now who have rejected 2 offers from their teams and a couple that very likely could be testing the RFA waters.

Bryce

Just so I'm clear if a player doesn't sign after 3 offers then that team cannot sign the player? The player will either a) holdout or b) be signed by another team for compensation?

BryceBruins · BRHL2 Co-Commish

Basically correct, a RFA would be test the waters, see if anyone else is interested and then the current team has the option of matching the offer.

IF no-one makes an offer, the team can attempt to reopen negotiations or allow the player to holdout until he is dealt.

Bryce

CBJackets · Guru

BryceBruins wrote:

Basically correct, a RFA would be test the waters, see if anyone else is interested and then the current team has the option of matching the offer.

IF no-one makes an offer, the team can attempt to reopen negotiations or allow the player to holdout until he is dealt.

Bryce

Ah okay so it is just an attempt to sign the player before he can test the RFA waters, so if he doesn't sign these 3 attempts it doesn't necessarily mean he's going to holdout.

BryceBruins · BRHL2 Co-Commish

Correct, although it's not to say he won't holdout

Sabres · Guru

Bryce can u respond to my question in my teams RFA thread?

CBJackets · Guru

BryceBruins wrote:

Correct, although it's not to say he won't holdout

So holdouts are giong to be random? How will they be done? It just seems worrisome that as you said so many teams have yet to sign their players with 3 offers, are we going to see a lot of holdouts? RFA holdouts hardly ever happen in the NHL.

Thanks for responding btw.

Sabres · Guru

CBJackets wrote:

BryceBruins wrote:

Correct, although it's not to say he won't holdout

So holdouts are giong to be random? How will they be done? It just seems worrisome that as you said so many teams have yet to sign their players with 3 offers, are we going to see a lot of holdouts? RFA holdouts hardly ever happen in the NHL.

Thanks for responding btw.

i don't think they're random...i think he's saying if the club doesnt give a fair offer, there will be a holdout situation..Random holdouts would cause a world of contraversy

CBJackets · Guru

What I mean is when players have gone through their 3 offers what decides whether they will hold out or not. Bryce mentioned that not all of the players that have gone through their 3 offers will holdout, so I'm wondering why one player would holdout and another wouldn't.

BryceBruins · BRHL2 Co-Commish

If a team cannot come to an agreement with their 3 offers, the player tests the RFA waters, if he doesn't receive an offer there, the team can reopen negotiations if they wish. Not nessesarily meaning they will sign for that. If they still can't come to an agreement, the player will holdout.

Likely it's a scenario that will never occur, but it "could" in theory

CBJackets · Guru

BryceBruins wrote:

If a team cannot come to an agreement with their 3 offers, the player tests the RFA waters, if he doesn't receive an offer there, the team can reopen negotiations if they wish. Not nessesarily meaning they will sign for that. If they still can't come to an agreement, the player will holdout.

Likely it's a scenario that will never occur, but it "could" in theory

Perfect, thanks.

Sabres · Guru

Bryce are you ever going to respond to my question in the Buffalo Sabres RFA thread? Ill just repost it here since no one reads that thread.

Are we going to get a response back from the players we hope to sign? In reality, when a team offers a player a contract and he rejects it, he would come back with a counter offer. Or at least a likely high ball offer? No? Are we going to get this response or do we simply just get the understanding that the player doesnt like our offer?

Also why was Steve Eminger's offer not looked at?

BryceBruins · BRHL2 Co-Commish

No problem I hadn't checked that thread, hence no response.

I'm not sure specifically on Eminger, but any offers that we had received Eric put on a spreadsheet and sent to me for review. I was delayed that week (as previously posted) and was delayed in responding. SOOO it's entirely possible that Eminger offer came in AFTER Eric had put that round together and is caught in the delay, which was in essense my fault. IF that was the case, his offer will be looked at on the next wave (likely later this week).

To answer your other question about the process, yes if a player had declined your offer, there would be some feedback as to what the player is after to make it work. IF you haven't received this feedback, and your player hasn't signed, he is likely on the next list to be reviewed. To be sure though, please resubmit that bid, I'm not sure either way if it has/had been received.

Hopefully that answers your question, if not let me know what else you need.

-- Edited by BryceBruins at 12:44, 2006-11-15

Sabres · Guru

Well, under our thread for RFA's it says that Ehrhoff had received an offer. And thats it, his offer count is at 1 and there is no deal in place. So we are assuming it was rejected. We didnt actually even get any kind of email. So this is coming in the next wave? Or was it missed or what? Seems kinda confusing. Im not really mad or anything because I just dont know the system yet and am trying to find out how it will work so I know what to expect and then can offer you the proper amount of time to go over the offers. Thanks alot.