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Confirmation on negotiating salaries for players - based on...


Although I've been in several other FHL leagues, this is the first one where stats and rerates are based on the real NHL, so I want to confirm something.

When contracts are being negotiated and salaries are being discussed, numbers that we look at (points, goals, assists, +/-...) are based on the REAL NHL player, correct?

So just hypothetically, I wait until the end of the season to try to negotiate Mike York's RFA contract. If he got 75 goals and 60 assists in the BRHL2, but only 10 goals and 35 assists in the NHL, it's his performance in the NHL that the league/agents would look at correct? The fact that he was a superstar and had 75 goals and 60 assists in the BRHL2 is irrelivant.

Do I have that correct?

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you are correct. We rate our players based on NHL performance. If a player exceeds his expectations in the FHL, consider yourself lucky :). It happens. Doesn't happen a lot, but it happens with the FHL Sim.

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Question on this...


J(i). There are advantages and dis-vantages to signing RFAs now. Signing the player now before a big NHL season will save you money.  By the same token, signing a good player to a contract before a bad season will not save you money.


Plucked from the RFA signing email


I guess it's alright to have two guys (the initial two) sign like this because one when the offers were made we weren't very far into the NHL season and two players do sometimes begin contract negotiations during the season, but it seems that as time goes by, if we are going to be doing this, teams are going to be able to sign players having good seasons to contracts that are a lot lower right now. I guess I just don't see the point of this...if it is some time saving measure for the summer as people are going to be away then I understand.


But I mean say midway through the NHL season I enter into contract talks with Thomas Vanek, who is a marginal player in the BRHL this year but is say, on pace for 90 points in the NHL. Wouldn't I get him at a bargain basement price for basically no reason? Other than the fact that we are doing RFA contract negotiations early. My team would benefit from this as well but it just seems stupid to me to be able to sign a guy to a cheap contract knowing full well half way through the NHL season that he's going to be much better than the money on his deal. Factor that by 5 years and it's a big deal. It just doesn't seem very realistic or good for the league, why in reality would the player agree to this? On the flipside everyone who has a guy that is rated well right now but may go down is going to wait until the end of the year to negotiate.


It seems unfair and unrealistic that a GM can say you, you're having a bad season so I'm going to wait until the offseason to re-sign you. If you want to get this done quicker a better idea might be to select random FAs from teams or to have the team choose 1 player to negotiate with and have the agent choose another player to negotiate with, of the two that are sent in per month.


So...say I choose to negotiate with PM Bouchard this month > good NHL season thus far so I Want to lock him up before he will command more money.


The Agent then chooses say Vaclav Prospal, very good BRHL season thus far as well as ratings but so far a poor NHL season.


Just my .02



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btw, Bryce and I will have responses to you on your RFA offers by friday at the very latest.

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Eric_Calgary wrote:


btw, Bryce and I will have responses to you on your RFA offers by friday at the very latest.


So no response to this? Grrrreat

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It seems unfair and unrealistic that a GM can say you, you're having a bad season so I'm going to wait until the offseason to re-sign you.




It happens in NHL Arbitration hearings, but instead of having Arbitration we take care of the negotiations during the RFA process.

I don't get the hang up here. Your point of signing a player to a smaller deal before a big season has a smaller chance of happening than you might think. Even so, it happens in the NHL countless times when players play to a higher standard than what their contract would dictate.

Your point of having an agent select a player and the GM select a player isn't a bad one. I wouldn't say that won't happen, but I think giving the GM more control of his team is a plus.

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Eric_Calgary wrote:



CBJackets wrote:




It seems unfair and unrealistic that a GM can say you, you're having a bad season so I'm going to wait until the offseason to re-sign you.





It happens in NHL Arbitration hearings, but instead of having Arbitration we take care of the negotiations during the RFA process.

I don't get the hang up here. Your point of signing a player to a smaller deal before a big season has a smaller chance of happening than you might think. Even so, it happens in the NHL countless times when players play to a higher standard than what their contract would dictate.

Your point of having an agent select a player and the GM select a player isn't a bad one. I wouldn't say that won't happen, but I think giving the GM more control of his team is a plus.




Ya that is a good point, I never thought of it as an arbitration like situation. I agree that players often play to a higher standard than what their contract dictates, that happens a lot, but it's not the case of a player signing an extension right before they become an RFA. More often than not a player will wait the extra year until they are a RFA in hopes of boosting their value or in a lot of cases recently a player will sign a one year deal with a team believing they are going to have a very good season and up their worth. And the difference between arbitration and pre-signing of RFAs is that arbitration takes place after the season, not sort of mid-season like we are doing, when it's easy to see who to sign now and who to wait to sign.


Probably a moot point anyways, things like this have been handled well already so I'm sure the contracts will end up being fair.



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Eric_Calgary wrote:


you are correct. We rate our players based on NHL performance. If a player exceeds his expectations in the FHL, consider yourself lucky :). It happens. Doesn't happen a lot, but it happens with the FHL Sim.



lol, like petr nedved in the BRHL2... the guy's tied for 8th in overall scoring after almost one quarter of the BRHL2 season, yet he's not playing in the NHL this season... go figure.....


 


 


plus petr nedved gets to bang veronica varekova every night so thats a bonus.



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