Suggestion to severely limit article money...

Florida Panthers · Senior Member

Suggestion to severely limit article money...

Eric_Isles · BRHL2 Co-Commish

The teams that received more money than others were TB and NYI. Let me just say, it's justified. Phillipe in Tampa, as most of you should remember, helped handle the draft as well as he has written articles. Jay in NYI has also helped me a lot recently with odd jobs as well as he will write for the main page. They have earned their money.

Other teams have written articles and have been paid according to scale. Every team has opportunity to write articles, so it might be in your best interest to join in and earn some extra money.

CBJackets · Guru

I'm fine with Tampa and NYI getting the money they've gotten, but there has to be a limit.

If a team writes say 20 articles over the course of the season, they could be looking at 10 or 20 million dollars. That kind of makes "making" money a bit obsolete.

It definitely needs to be capped, maybe 3-5 million maximum per team per season in rewards money.

Pittsburgh GM · Senior Member

I also agree 100% with that proposal and even would consider making it even less.

VanIslander · Guru

The best solution is for many g.m.s to write cover page stories concerning teams other than one's own: divisional, conference matchups, previews, reviews, whatever.

Come on, let's work within the rules we signed on for. Produce!

I hope it's not just two of us writing stories this season. Let's get at it!

Florida Panthers · Senior Member

VanIslander wrote:

The best solution is for many g.m.s to write cover page stories concerning teams other than one's own: divisional, conference matchups, previews, reviews, whatever.

Come on, let's work within the rules we signed on for. Produce!

I hope it's not just two of us writing stories this season. Let's get at it!

I did know full well about the money issues before signing up and am indeed fully prepared to live with them. But it doesn't mean that I still won't bring up the suggestion. I am all for GMs writing cover page stories or whatever else, and as stated, all for some sort of monetary incentive to continue doing so. No issue there at all. But like I said, at the huge amounts that can be gained by doing so, and ability to simply "buy" more league money when you want to, it takes out any need to be financially responsible for your team.

Predsgm · Guru

I wrote a team article the other day. and have not been given any amount of money for it. as well as when teh draft was on.. i did an article there as well.. its not showing up on the main home page. but its an article that is found on teh articles link

Preds GM

VanIslander · Guru

Don't forget there's "money" and then there's money!!

It's the green kind that we're most interested in.

CBJackets · Guru

VanIslander wrote:

The best solution is for many g.m.s to write cover page stories concerning teams other than one's own: divisional, conference matchups, previews, reviews, whatever.

Come on, let's work within the rules we signed on for. Produce!

I hope it's not just two of us writing stories this season. Let's get at it!

Come on now, surely you don't think it's acceptable that if you write 20 league wide articles this season you receive 10 million dollars.

There has to be a limit to reward money like this, otherwise what is the point of actually making money or managing my finances, when I could just write a bunch of articles.

philly · Guru

CBJackets wrote:

Come on now, surely you don't think it's acceptable that if you write 20 league wide articles this season you receive 10 million dollars.

There has to be a limit to reward money like this, otherwise what is the point of actually making money or managing my finances, when I could just write a bunch of articles.

Id just like to point out that if we limited it to a 5-million dollar cap number, then once whoever decides to go after that money has that limit, the articles and other interest in the league from owners in the bottom half (who need to write articles the most!) will go south and the league will be at its most boring, when it should be iits most exciting time, the playoff push.

CBJackets · Guru

philly wrote:

CBJackets wrote:

Come on now, surely you don't think it's acceptable that if you write 20 league wide articles this season you receive 10 million dollars.

There has to be a limit to reward money like this, otherwise what is the point of actually making money or managing my finances, when I could just write a bunch of articles.

Id just like to point out that if we limited it to a 5-million dollar cap number, then once whoever decides to go after that money has that limit, the articles and other interest in the league from owners in the bottom half (who need to write articles the most!) will go south and the league will be at its most boring, when it should be iits most exciting time, the playoff push.

Well it kind of sucks if those GMs are just writing articles for the money, but I guess that may be the reality.

Am I really one of the only ones that sees a problem with awarding a team 10-20 mil for writing articles???

Florida Panthers · Senior Member

CBJackets wrote:

Id just like to point out that if we limited it to a 5-million dollar cap number, then once whoever decides to go after that money has that limit, the articles and other interest in the league from owners in the bottom half (who need to write articles the most!) will go south and the league will be at its most boring, when it should be iits most exciting time, the playoff push.

Well it kind of sucks if those GMs are just writing articles for the money, but I guess that may be the reality.

Am I really one of the only ones that sees a problem with awarding a team 10-20 mil for writing articles???

Given that I started this tread, obviously I'm in agreement. Like I said, I am all in favour of some monetary compensation as an incentive to do things like write articles. But I also strongly believe that it shouldn't be able to have a huge impact on your finances. Never mind a $5 million cap, I'm thinking more like a $2 million at most (which obviously wouldn't take long with current amounts, but chop them off by 90% and it'll take a while).

And I really don't think that a "people will stop writing articles" is a good reason to cap things. Don't we want things to be as realistic as possible? I'd rather have a realistic financial situation over a bunch of articles that nobody cares about that people write just to get money. As of right now, finances are frankly, irrelivant given how easy it is to write up a quick article and get big bucks.

CBJackets · Guru

Florida Panthers wrote:

CBJackets wrote:

Id just like to point out that if we limited it to a 5-million dollar cap number, then once whoever decides to go after that money has that limit, the articles and other interest in the league from owners in the bottom half (who need to write articles the most!) will go south and the league will be at its most boring, when it should be iits most exciting time, the playoff push.

Well it kind of sucks if those GMs are just writing articles for the money, but I guess that may be the reality.

Am I really one of the only ones that sees a problem with awarding a team 10-20 mil for writing articles???

Given that I started this tread, obviously I'm in agreement. Like I said, I am all in favour of some monetary compensation as an incentive to do things like write articles. But I also strongly believe that it shouldn't be able to have a huge impact on your finances. Never mind a $5 million cap, I'm thinking more like a $2 million at most (which obviously wouldn't take long with current amounts, but chop them off by 90% and it'll take a while).

And I really don't think that a "people will stop writing articles" is a good reason to cap things. Don't we want things to be as realistic as possible? I'd rather have a realistic financial situation over a bunch of articles that nobody cares about that people write just to get money. As of right now, finances are frankly, irrelivant given how easy it is to write up a quick article and get big bucks.

Ya, completely agreed.

Eric_Isles · BRHL2 Co-Commish

In the early stages of test sims, with my results yet to be released, I'll give you guys a quick note.

It is proving somewhat tough to make a lot of money in this league, if you are not a playoff team. thus submitting articles and helping out will earn you money. If you are close to the cap, and don't make the playoffs, you won't be that much over the positve mark in finances. Earning money helps, and I don't really find it being a cop out as being financially responsible. I've done weekley enstallments in the BRHL1, doing interviews, and the money I made pretty much only counter-acted my whole season of paying my players.

Paying for GMs to help out is there for a reason, it's there to help keep teams out of the red. It helps keeps things active. It's easier for me.

There will not be a cap on how much a team can get paid. However, teams like NYI and Tampa who have received most of the funds aren't going to be the typical results. Most of that work is done, and the only way to get funds now are writing articles. I will not have a cap, but at the same time, I will judge whether or not to start limiting articles. It won't get to the point where I put up 10 new articles a day, and then 10 the next. I'm going to use them sparingly, and realistically.

I understand your concerns, but being involved in this system for a while, I can say that it's probably being made a bigger deal than what it is. The finances will be stable, and I don't expect any serious hang ups.

If you have any other questions, please let me know.

Florida Panthers · Senior Member

Eric_Calgary wrote:

If you are close to the cap, and don't make the playoffs, you won't be that much over the positve mark in finances.

But you say that as if it's a bad thing or something that shouldn't happen. Why should teams automatically make money every year? If you're spending cap or neap cap money and aren't a playoff team, why should you be making money? You're either spending too much money and should trade some of that away, or players aren't performing... whatever the case, you should have to manage your own team to ensure they make money. it shouldn't be a given.

Obviously I can't speak for the first BRHL, but I have been in other leagues with similar types of things. Some with far lower money for articles, and another where it's been big bucks. From my experience in the one with the big bucks, people are far less financially responsible and throw out money as if it didn't matter.