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Best Defenceman From 2008 Draft?


Now this draft year had a lot of stud Dmen in it:

 

Notably, Drew Doughty, Alex Pietrangelo, Erik Karlsson, Tyler Myers, Jake Gardiner, Mchael Del Zotto, John Carlson, Travis Hamonic, TJ Brodie, Jason Demers amongst others.

 

But the question is, how would you rank the 2008 dmen? Heres my list:

 

1.) Alex Pietrangelo

2.) Drew Doughty

3.) Erik Karlsson

4.) Tyler Myers

5.) John Carlson

6.) Travis Hamonic

7.) Jake Gardiner

8.) Michael Del Zotto

9.) T.J. Brodie

10.) Jason Demers

 

I place Pietrangelo above Karlsson and Doughty for the fact that he is superbly better defensively and is 3 pts off from leading his team in scoring, period. This guys a beast.



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Certainly not Tyler Myers, whom someone proclaimed would be better than Doughty and traded Shea Weber + to get him   ;)


LOL, seriously if I had a vote and had to call their careers:
1) Doughty
2) Karlsson
3) Pietrangelo
4) Carlson
5) Myers
6) Schenn (DO NOT FOGET ABOUT THIS GUY)
7) Del Zotto
8) Gardiner



Brodie and Demers?? Seriously?? I havent even looked at the list but if you want to talk borderline NHLers, Kirk has some stories to tell about his past 2 drafts, hahahaah








-- Edited by philly on Tuesday 27th of March 2012 10:28:03 PM

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1-Karlsson, 1A-Hamonic, the rest.

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Myers will catch up without a doubt. He is still extremely raw. The best part of his game is that he actually uses his size and will so even more as he becomes a man.

As for Schenn, I did forget to add him to the list. Id put him in at #9.

Trading Weber + was cause Webers sim results are horrible for how good he is and it was a salary dump of sorts. Wasnt pumped to make the move but sort of had to.

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i know bud im just rubbing it in.... i thought Myers was on his way to being the new CP44 after that rookie season of his...

i really dont see the offense though when im watching him... hes not confident in that 1/2 the ice, IMO

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Not sure how Demers is a borderline NHLer. Won't say anything more.

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1.) Drew Doughty

2.) Erik Karlsson

3.) Alex Pietrangelo

4.) John Carlson

5.) Travis Hamonic

6.) Tyler Myers

7.) Jason Demers

8.) Jake Gardiner

9.) Michael Del Zotto

10.) Luke Schenn

Brodie doesn't make my list, and as many know, I'm a Colts fan, and he had his best year there. Or half I should say. But he just doesn't rank with these guys YET imo.

Doughty is at top because he can continuously make plays in either zone by himself. Karlsson's D game still needs time, Pietrangelo quite often shoots for rebounds and gets his points that way, as where Doughty or Karlsson can go end to end and do it themselves. We saw this in World Juniors when Carlson scored after Pietrangelo shot low and the rebound came out (whether he was shooting for a rebound, or trying to score, I don't know..but he had guys going to net). Karlsson behind him because of his Visnovsky-like defensive game, gets him by, and I like it, but realistically there are better ways to defend, but offense is un-matched. Pietrangelo 3rd because his hockey sense is through the roof, which is why the stats are inflated a little. Realistically probably the 6th best offensively on the list. That's not to say he won't become the consensus #1 on this list in a year or 2.

You could really make a case for any of the top 3, very much debatable. This is just how I'd rank them. Ask this same question in a year and I probably swap #1 and 3.

This comment is so dis-organized but I think it's clear where I stand at least...

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Demers is better than Del Zotto or Schenn based on what criteria??? Put it this way... will Jason Demers have an NHL job in 6-7 years?? my guess would be if hes still around by then his defensive game has really made strides... hes in the NHL on perhaps the weakest organization of defenseman by quite some margin...

Im just gonna go out on a limb and say Schenn, Gardiner and Del Zotto will still be top 4 defensemen in that same time frame

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Right now I have no problem with Demers defensive game, it isn't spectacular, but he's playing 3rd pairing, which doesn't help things. I mean throw him on the Rangers and he's a +20. It was tough to put him ahead of those guys, but right now I think he's more well rounded. I see a fair bit of SJ hockey and like his 2 way game over Del Zotto's and Schenn's right now (by that I mean at both ends, not one or the other). But I do see your point and you could very well be right, but for now I'm sticking to my list.

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too early to do this still,,, like having a seguin-skinner debate its still to early


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I just realized we are all forgetting Bogosian in our lists, LMAO.. im editting mine above...


some other dmen from that draft class:

13. Colton Teubert
19. Luca Sbisa
32. Vyatcheslav Voynov
38. Roman Josi
40. Aaron Ness
42. Patrick Weircoch
43. Justin Schultz
50. Cameron Gaunce
55. Marco Scandella
149. Philip Larsen
156. Jared Spurgeon
170. Jonas Holos



So I think Demers and Brodie have some competition ;)

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Ya I want to redo my list, but I'll do that later.

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