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BRHL Ratings Announcement


Hello BRHL GM's

I have exciting news on the status of the ratings for next season.

As you all know, The ratings are done at the completion of every NHL regular season. This is a rather long time consuming project, but over the years I have been able to significantly cut down the man hours needed to do the ratings, and the STHS program is a godsend as far as the ease of transferring data.

Regardless, The initial process is done, all players who played 10 AHL or NHL games have ratings, and they have gone through the initial review process. So, you can expect to see a release of the ratings by the end of the week.

The only real change this season is roughly a 5% bump to DF ratings across the board, and a minor tweak to ST ratings.

Unlike years past however, we have alot of time left in our BRHL seasons, I am going to edit a copy of each league file to update to players to each teams, get the rosters formatted etc, so we will be showing everyone the projected rosters for next year. This will allow the GMs to view their teams and pick out any ratings that may be flawed (obvious) or any contentions with the SK ratings, which are the only ones not formula based.

I would like to thank Ken, Eric, Kirk, Luke, and especially Rob Botham for their help with the ratings, reviewing them, and gathering data. I honestly think that this process gets much smoother each season, and allows us to do more events to make the BRHL better as a group. Thanks again to Ken & Jesse for an awesome job they continue to do in the BRHL, to Erica for his work in the BRHL2 & BRHLJ, to Rob for BRHLE, and tol Steve for running the international events. We have an awesome core group of guys, that make the BRHL a real fun place to mingle.

Expect announcements soon for each league to enhance the review process, I hope that everyone likes the ratings, and has a great stretch run to the playoffs!!


Bryce

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this is me whinning... haha for not be recognized for data entry work in gathering stats for the past 2 seasons. lol

but i do agree we do have a great bunch of guys for the longevity of the league.

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I've started to analyze the initial ratings using the "player-rating" analyzer I created last year...  So without further ado I'll start with the forwards

Top 20 All-Around Forwards:

1 Alexander Ovechkin  Phi
2 Patrick Marleau  Bos
3 Sidney Crosby  Buf
4 Ilya Kovalchuk  Tor
5 Joe Thornton  Chi
6 Marian Gaborik  ANA
7 Ryan Getzlaf  Bos
8 Steven Stamkos  NJD
9 Anze Kopitar  Buf
10 Rick Nash  Atl
11 Daniel Alfredsson  Det
12 Martin St. Louis  Det
13 Nicklas Backstrom  Was
14 Brad Richards  ANA
15 Henrik Sedin  SJ
16 Alexander Semin  SJ
17 Daniel Sedin  SJ
18 Eric Staal  StL
19 Marian Hossa  Fla
20 Zach Parise  SJ

Top 20 Snipers:

1 Alexander Ovechkin  Phi
2 Sidney Crosby  Buf
3 Steven Stamkos  NJD
4 Marian Gaborik  ANA
5 Ilya Kovalchuk  Tor
6 Alexander Semin  SJ
7 Patrick Marleau  Bos
8 Zach Parise  SJ
9 Teemu Selanne  Phx
10 Nicklas Backstrom  Was
11 Evgeni Malkin  Col
12 Daniel Sedin  SJ
13 Dany Heatley  Atl
14 Anze Kopitar  Buf
15 Rick Nash  Atl
16 Eric Staal  StL
17 Patrick Kane  Det
18 Martin St. Louis  Det
19 Phil Kessel  Tor
20 Ryan Getzlaf  Bos

Top 20 "Game-Changers":

1 Alexander Ovechkin  Phi
2 Sidney Crosby  Buf
3 Henrik Sedin  SJ
4 Daniel Sedin  SJ
5 Nicklas Backstrom  Was
6 Brad Richards  ANA
7 Ilya Kovalchuk  Tor
8 Martin St. Louis  Det
9 Evgeni Malkin  Col
10 Joe Thornton  Chi
11 Ryan Getzlaf  Bos
12 Marian Gaborik  ANA
13 Steven Stamkos  NJD
14 Alexander Semin  SJ
15 Patrick Kane  Det
16 Paul Stastny  Was
17 Daniel Alfredsson  Det
18 Ales Hemsky  Atl
19 Eric Staal  StL
20 Anze Kopitar  Buf

Top 20 Two-Way Players:

1 Ryan Callahan  Dal
2 David Backes  Atl
3 Jordan Staal  Atl
4 Mike Fisher  StL
5 Dustin Brown  Buf
6 Kristian Huselius  Phx
7 Jakub Voracek  ANA
8 Patrick Marleau  Bos
9 Rick Nash  Atl
10 Ryan Kesler  Phi
11 Alexander Ovechkin  Phi
12 Todd Marchant  Car
13 Mike Richards  Tor
14 Antoine Vermette  Chi
15 Ryan Malone  Car
16 Jay McClement  NYR
17 Brenden Morrow  Bos
18 T.J. Oshie  Fla
19 Brandon Dubinsky  TB
20 Steve Ott  Tor

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BryceBruins wrote:

The only real change this season is roughly a 5% bump to DF ratings across the board, and a minor tweak to ST ratings.


Just wanted some clarification on one thing, DU. Has the process for this changed or has it yet to be finished...

Just noticed that across the board, DU ratings are down. Prime example is Pavel Datsyuk from my squad, last year he played in 81 games, averaging 19:12 TOI/game which corresponded a rating of 87 DU. However, this season Datsyuk played in 80 games averaging 20:20 TOI/game yet his DU has been reduced to 76.

If we have lower DUs, I'm just concerned that we will see more exhaustions for injuries.

 



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games played is irrelevant, but yes I am seeing some inconsistencies to DU accross the board, will be looking at those and fixing tonight. Thanks Gareth, thats one that I missed in my prescreening.

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And, oh by the way,

The issues etc that people have been emailing me have been very good, some legit, some not, but I appreciate pointing out what appear to be the glitches, and their always will be some. Im actually surprised at how professional, and well thought out some of the reponses have been, and I'd say 1/3 of the league responding within about 16 hours of original emails is quite good. Thanks guys.

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Top 20 Overall Defensemen:

Scott Niedermayer  Buf
Sergei Gonchar  Det
Chris Pronger  Phi
Mike Green  Chi
Nicklas Lidstrom  Cal
Dan Boyle  Car
Duncan Keith  Col
Stephane Robidas  NYR
Andrei Markov  Chi
Zdeno Chara  Atl
Drew Doughty  Fla
Joni Pitkanen  Phi
Ed Jovanovski  NYR
Kimmo Timonen  ---
Dion Phaneuf  Bos
Bryan McCabe  Cal
Mark Streit  Chi
Rob Blake  Ana
Pavel Kubina  Min
Jay Bouwmeester  Buf

Top 20 Power-Play Quarterbacks:

Mike Green  Chi
Sergei Gonchar  Det
Dan Boyle  Car
Drew Doughty  Fla
Duncan Keith  Col
Andrei Markov  Chi
Joni Pitkanen  Phi
Tobias Enstrom  Min
Chris Pronger  Phi
Mark Streit  Chi
Tomas Kaberle  SJ
Nicklas Lidstrom  Cal
Scott Niedermayer  Buf
Lubomir Visnovsky  Chi
Kurtis Foster  Cal
Marek Zidlicky  Nsh
Bryan McCabe  Cal
Brian Rafalski  Bos
Alex Goligoski  Det
Shea Weber  Bos

Top 20 Shutdown Defenders:

Chris Pronger  Phi
Zdeno Chara  Atl
Stephane Robidas  NYR
Brent Seabrook  Van
Anton Volchenkov  Chi
Tim Gleason  Car
Sergei Gonchar  Det
Jay Bouwmeester  Buf
Brad Stuart  SJ
Douglas Murray  Van
Andy Sutton  NYR
Matt Greene  Fla
Daniel Girardi  Phi
Scott Niedermayer  Buf
Brooks Orpik  Det
Dion Phaneuf  Bos
Pavel Kubina  Min
Rostislav Klesla  StL
Marc Staal  Atl
Hal Gill  NYR

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Top 20 Goaltenders:

Ryan Miller  Atl
Miikka Kiprusoff  Col
Evgeni Nabokov  StL
Martin Brodeur  Buf
Tuukka Rask  LA
Henrik Lundqvist  Ana
Tomas Vokoun  Fla
Ilya Bryzgalov  SJ
Jimmy Howard  Buf
Roberto Luongo  Phi
Craig Anderson  Chi
Jason LaBarbera  Was
Cam Ward  Bos
Chris Mason  Edm
Marty Turco  Nsh
Jonathan Quick  Mon
Jaroslav Halak  Clb
Tim Thomas  Dal
Marc-Andre Fleury  Det
Antti Niemi  Min



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Biggest ratings surprises:

Goaltenders

- Simeon Varlamov is the 44th ranked goaltender (behind the likes of Ty Conklin, Michael Leighton, Jonathan Bernier, Johan Hedberg)
- JS Giguere is the 67th ranked goaltender (Brent Krahn, Justin Pogge and Jaroslav Janus are ranked higher)
- Jason LaBarbera is the 12th ranked goaltender (ahead of Cam Ward, Tim Thomas and Antti Niemi)

Defence

- Kevin Bieksa is the 93rd ranked defenseman (Michael Komisarek, Douglas Murray and Wade Redden all received better ratings)
- Keith Yandle is the 117th ranked defenseman (behind such blueliners as Carl Gunnarsson, Michael Del Zotto and Christoph Schubert)
- Stephane Robidas is the 8th ranked defenseman (ranked ahead of Olympians Zdeno Chara, Drew Doughty and Brent Seabrook)

Forwards

Phil Kessel is the 78th ranked forward (Kristian Huselius, Ryan Callahan and Brandon Dubinsky all graded higher)
Evgeni Malkin is the 23rd ranked forward (Eric Staal, Ryan Kesler, Daniel Sedin were all deemed to be better)
Nik Antropov is the 35th ranked forward (bettering young guns Mike Richards, Jeff Carter and Corey Perry)


 



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Mikko Koivu didn't make your top-20 Two-Way Players

Because in terms of shutting down other teams top lines and also scoring at just under a PPG clip, he would have to make that list over say voracek or huselius, no??

Just ask Jari Kurri and Team Finland's brass!


And yeah im pimping my asset!

I love this guy.

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Well, I've finally looked through the ratings and one thing that sticks out to me is how some of the Columbus Blue Jacket players in the NHL (ie. Brassard, Huselius and Voracek) have extremely high DF ratings, with each of these guys having well above 80 for a DF rating. This has to be wrong.

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Was wrong, has been fixed. Thats back to back years the Jackets have f'ed me up.



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Calgary GM wrote:

Well, I've finally looked through the ratings and one thing that sticks out to me is how some of the Columbus Blue Jacket players in the NHL (ie. Brassard, Huselius and Voracek) have extremely high DF ratings, with each of these guys having well above 80 for a DF rating. This has to be wrong.




 good catch...

i just looked at the list and asked myself which one of these guys is mikko significantly better than... those 2 cbj guys stuck out but i never put together a flaw..



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OAnaheim GM wrote:

 

Top 20 Goaltenders:

Ryan Miller  Atl
Miikka Kiprusoff  Col
Evgeni Nabokov  StL
Martin Brodeur  Buf
Tuukka Rask  LA
Henrik Lundqvist  Ana
Tomas Vokoun  Fla
Ilya Bryzgalov  SJ
Jimmy Howard  Buf
Roberto Luongo  Phi
Craig Anderson  Chi
Jason LaBarbera  Was
Cam Ward  Bos
Chris Mason  Edm
Marty Turco  Nsh
Jonathan Quick  Mon
Jaroslav Halak  Clb
Tim Thomas  Dal
Marc-Andre Fleury  Det
Antti Niemi  Min

 




Hey does anyone know what is taken into consideration for the goaltender ratings? Only reason I ask is just looking at the goaltenders stats all together and they dont seem consistent with how good of years the goalies actually had.

 

Ryan Miller is the #1 goalie and rightfully so he should be:

4th in wins, 2nd in GAA, 2nd in Save %

 

Kipper is #2 and is:

10th in wins, 7th in GAA, 10th in Save %; Kipper had a great year for the flames but statically speaking he's not top 5 in any category. How is it he's #2?

 

Nabokov is #3 and is:

2nd in wins, 10th in GAA, 6th in Save %

 

Brodeur is #4 and is:

1st in Wins, 3rd in GAA, and 13th Save %

 

Rask is #5 and is:

23rd in wins, 1st in GAA, and 1st in Save %

 

Lundqvist is #6 and is:

11th in wins, 8th in GAA, and 8th in Save %

 

Vokoun is #7 and is:

21st in wins, 16th in GAA, and 3rd in save%

 

Bryzy is #8 and is:

3rd in wins, 6th in GAA, 9th in Save%

 

Howard is #9 and is:

8th in Wins, 5th in GAA, and 5th in Save%

 

Luongo is 10th and is:

5th in wins, 19th in GAA, and 19th in Save%

 

So that is the summary of the top 10 most important gagable statistics for a goalie as there are not stats that forwards have like Faceoffs, PK ice time, PP ice time, goals, assists, hits, block shots ect... So to me it should almost entirely be statistically based with these three stats. Here's some of my conclusions:

 

-Kipper at #2 seems way off as he is not top 5 in any major statistical category.

-If Nabokov and Brodeur are 3 and 4 then wins must weigh extremely high. As neither of their GAA and Save % are elite.

-However #5 almost disproves #s 3 and 4 as Rask had the best save% and GAA but is inexperienced and has the lowest amount of wins in the top 10.

-Lundqvist is the only player to be ranked ahead of where all 3 of the most important categories ranked.

-How is Vokoun #7 when he is 21st in wins and 16th in GAA. Save % must be must important, but then again how is kipper 2nd with the 13th best save %?

-Bryzy seemingly should be higher ranked as he is 3rd in wins, 6th in GAA and 9th in Save %. He's top 10 in every major statistical category.

- Howard is the only player to have all three of these critical ratings be higher ranked than his overall rating. Ranked #9 overall but 8th, 5th, and 5th respectively. Makes not a lot of sense? However, I guess you could consider his age, but then again how is Rask #5 when he was so low in Wins?

-Luongo seems to get into the top 10 on his wins alone (and name). For a player who is just barely top 20 in GAA and save% yet 5th in wins makes me think wins is very important but then again how is Rask and vokoun so highly ranked?

Thoughts?

 

 



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Keep in mind that the calculations probably take into account other factors (GP and other factors)...

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