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RE: Upcoming Free Agent Report (2010)


If we remove tags we should increase the UFA age a year or two.

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I would rather just see a 2-3% loyalty bonus for each team's UFAs per season of service. If you keep a guy for five years, then he signs 10-15% less than market value.

That would more closely mirror player loyalty than any system we have in place now.

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Hawks_G wrote:

I would rather just see a 2-3% loyalty bonus for each team's UFAs per season of service. If you keep a guy for five years, then he signs 10-15% less than market value.

That would more closely mirror player loyalty than any system we have in place now.



Kirk would be screwed.  I LIKE it!

 



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Hawks_G wrote:

I would rather just see a 2-3% loyalty bonus for each team's UFAs per season of service. If you keep a guy for five years, then he signs 10-15% less than market value.

That would more closely mirror player loyalty than any system we have in place now.




Well we already get 10%, I'd like to see something that makes a bit more of a difference. I like the idea on a whole though.



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I'm for removing the tag as i'm for what's closest to the NHL rule book. They don't have tags, lets dump ours.

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GarrettLeafs wrote:

I'm for removing the tag as i'm for what's closest to the NHL rule book. They don't have tags, lets dump ours.




Problem is that in the NHL you can resign any of your free agents before they hit the open market.  Unless we had that (which would require subjective evaluation of contract offers by league officials) the NHL rule book doesn't really apply.



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I'm for removing the tag as i'm for what's closest to the NHL rule book. They don't have tags, lets dump ours.




Problem is that in the NHL you can resign any of your free agents before they hit the open market.  Unless we had that (which would require subjective evaluation of contract offers by league officials) the NHL rule book doesn't really apply.



Agreed.

Perhaps a percentage in relation to both team performance (desire) and duration with the club (loyalty) could be used to determine if UFAs would consider resigning with any given club...

 



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GarrettLeafs wrote:

I'm for removing the tag as i'm for what's closest to the NHL rule book. They don't have tags, lets dump ours.




 Completely agree...

As soon as this next round of tags is completed (after the coming season?) we should scrap the tags entirely...




And the purpose of BRHL2 UFA is to help the teams closest to the bottom of the standings make quick leaps into the playoffs... which it has seemingly done very well so far...

i think loyalty bonuses, tags, etc. are MOSTLY going to help the teams towards the TOP of the standings.



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philly wrote:

GarrettLeafs wrote:

I'm for removing the tag as i'm for what's closest to the NHL rule book. They don't have tags, lets dump ours.




 Completely agree...

As soon as this next round of tags is completed (after the coming season?) we should scrap the tags entirely...




And the purpose of BRHL2 UFA is to help the teams closest to the bottom of the standings make quick leaps into the playoffs... which it has seemingly done very well so far...

i think loyalty bonuses, tags, etc. are MOSTLY going to help the teams towards the TOP of the standings.



That seems a bit unfair.  I traded for Brian Campbell knowing I could tag him this year and next.



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I think that's the point Rex is trying to make...and a big reason I hate the tags. The way I see it, is that the tags help the top teams a helluva lot more than they help the cellar dwellers. I'd like to see the tags done away with. And, I have no problem if we use a similar UFA system as BRHL where all UFA's test the market, I think that's a better alternative to the system we have now. But, that's just my opinion.

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Please don't get me wrong - I am for doing away with them as well.  I just think ample notice is required as teams may have acquired a player thinking that they had them for 3 years based on the rules in effect at that time.

At the end of the day, I'm comfortable with doing whatever the majority want to do.

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Guess I'll throw in my 2 cents as well...lol. I like the idea of scrapping the tags as well, regardless of the "when" it takes place, but I also like the opportunity to re-sign a key pending UFA!! So what about putting in a 1 loyalty signing option for all teams? This "loyalty" signing would include a 10% RAISE to the re-signing player(not discount). You would only be able to sign 1 UFA per year/team regardless of whether you had 1 or 10 UFA's but would at least give the GM the opportunity to maintain what they believe to be a "centerpiece" to build around. This also allows GM's that over-pay at trade deadline to "get over the hump" for a pending UFA the opportunity to retain the player they over-paid for. Again, this is only a 1/year option so it doesn't overly help a GM that has 10 UFA's and sure beats the possible 3 guys in the current system. Thoughts?

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I too agree with gunning the tags, I never use them nor ever liked them. I am fine with grandfathering them out though, seems like the only fair thing to do.

I have found it intertesting though that neither Bryce or Eric have piped in on this nor Kirk. I am curious their thoughts on what the league is saying .

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We announced earlier in the off-season Tags are gone as of next off-season. Would've been this off-season, except we didn't give enough warning, so we thought we'd be fair to teams who planned that far ahead.

There is already a 10% loyalty for re-signing UFAs, and I doubt we will be adding anything extra to retain players. We're aiming to make the UFA pool deeper so that there is some more movement.

I think the settings we have in place will create the most movement, while RFA signings seem to be very reasonable for everyone as well. That is unless you have a bunch of newly signed NHL contracts to deal with.

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