Sorry I didn't get to comment on the Marleau situation. I got home from work tonight to check the verdict.... So i will throw it in here... Now looking at it from Rob's views, I wish i never put Marleau on the market. If i knew i couldn't get over 5 million for him (as i don't think any team has 3 first round picks free'd up for 150), i would have just signed him myself for 4 years. Did the BOD take any of this into consideration? or did they just go by the black and white rules?
Now i know this won't change this specific ruling, but i will say that the structure needs to be looked at and possibly changed or you will never get GM's bidding on sought after restricted free agents...we are in the end, looking to copy the NHL arn't we?
if this is the nhl of of sim hockey the pay up 500 cover ur fees for awhile :)
this isnt to you ross just everyone one this whole issue..
if not willing to offer up the cash then the league has to protect itself..
after a few years and their is a few seasons of the same 30 g.ms it could be discussed.
I will be lobbying for a rule preventing you from making any trades. That should protect the league very nicely.
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Sorry I didn't get to comment on the Marleau situation. I got home from work tonight to check the verdict.... So i will throw it in here... Now looking at it from Rob's views, I wish i never put Marleau on the market. If i knew i couldn't get over 5 million for him (as i don't think any team has 3 first round picks free'd up for 150), i would have just signed him myself for 4 years. Did the BOD take any of this into consideration? or did they just go by the black and white rules?
Now i know this won't change this specific ruling, but i will say that the structure needs to be looked at and possibly changed or you will never get GM's bidding on sought after restricted free agents...we are in the end, looking to copy the NHL arn't we?
I strongly agree with Ross on this. I'd like to lead a small group of GMs (maybe 2 or 3 other guys) to come up with a new UFA and RFA system. I have some ideas and have heard some good ones from a few others.
Bryce, Eric:
Can I chair a committee to look at this?
The goal would be to make a recommendation by January 31, 2010, which, if approved would take effect for UFA and RFA 2010.
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make a recommendation on RFA, absolutely. UFA we are very happy with, and at this point have no intention of changing.
In response to Ross' question, no the fact you could have signed them was never taken into consideration, nor should it have been. I fully explained the perils of letting a guy hit RFA to everyone, specifically in conversation with you as well. Letting a guy test RFA is risky no matter how you look at it, you (and others) have chosen to go that route, looking backwards would provide no benefit to anyone from a decision making standpoint.
This situation was unique in that I was involved, which drug out the process cause I had to consult the BOD. Otherwise it would have been dealt with instantly, and alot of the other things affected by it, would not have come into play.
But Kirk is right (I know, hard to believe). At the end of the day, Eric and I, have to put the league's longterm viability first and foremost in any situation. Regardless of the GM's involved, and regardless of gray areas. We are constantly trying to make everything as black and white as possible, there really is no other way to run a longterm successful league, and I appreciate that most of you understand that.
I absolutely understand keeping the league as the priority. When I look at Anaheims page on the web, as i do all the other teams, i see under 'prospects and picks', i see year 5 - 2014 listed. How do i know if these are available or not? If i had known that almost no GM's had paid up to 4 years in advance, i really would have signed Marleau myself...
So if you havent paid and your picks are listed why would you think it would be any different for any other team?
As for listing what picks are available I would say use common sense, chances are most teams have access to picks this year to trade past that I highly doubt anyone is prepaying any farther ahead then that.
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So then what is the point of making a ruling of '3 first rounders' for if the contract is over 5million....use your common sense? Is this rule in place because it won't apply to anyone? like i said, i don't actually care about the what happened, but the rule needs to be changed from 3 - 1st rounders then....
I'm not going to get into this discussion on the message boards anymore, if you want to discuss it further in private I have no problem sharing my views and getting into a friendly debate on the matter and I'm certainly easy to find.
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I used to be in a league where UFA and RFA was decided by a dice roll (5 dice in total). I can't remember how it went but I do remember some of it. I will make it up and see what you guys think.
I liked it cause it didn't matter on contract amount or anything, it was purely a roll of the dice, if you rolled enough, you got him, if not, you didn't
