ELC Contracts

Sabres_Luke · Guru

RE: ELC Contracts

Hawks_G · Guru

Agreed with Bryce. The individual team situation is irrelevant. My opinion is based on the fact that the economic advantage to having a young player on ELC just simply shouldn't be there.

Why should we let some players not be at their actual cap hit? What benefit are we trying to provide the teams that have these players? If we are trying to let the rebuilding teams get better quicker, we should at least admit our reasoning for doing it.

I see arguments that suggest helping the "poorer cousins." I don't have a problem with figuring out ways to keep the bottom teams competitive. I also think that we have a cap for that. The problem is that in general, the good teams are going to be good in perpetuity like Tyler said.

The point about incentive for poor performance was simply this....in the NHL, teams rebuild, but they still consider trying to be competitive for their fans. In FHL, GMs will sell everything off to get the one pick that might be a superstar to build around. They really don't answer to anyone. That is the wrong approach.

When it comes down to it, we all joined the BRHL2 with the premise that it is going to be as close to the NHL as possible. Even down to the point where we have a forum to discuss CBA issues.

This is a CBA issue, and if there is an Agent for the BRHL2, then he isn't doing his job in signing the players to the bonuses they get in the NHL. It is outside what we premised for this league.

All that said, I don't believe in a quick change....let's even do it gradually. Add 25% of their bonus cap hit per year for four seasons, and don't start putting guys at their cap hit until the present guys ELC's expire...(Kane, Kessel etc)

There are lots of ways to do it, but as of right now, if a team wants to have Doughty, Schenn, Stamkos, Kane, Toews, Malkin, Kopitar, Semin, Backstrom, Kessel, Gagner, Setoguchi, Erik Johnson, all on his team next year, they would be comfortably under the cap. ;)

ColoradoGM · Senior Member

I completely agree with Chicago on this one.
The thing is, we are trying to mirror the NHL as closely as possible and many GM's tend to forget this when creating their long/short term plans. As i say this, i am watching the Leafs, who are obviously in a rebuild year, they don't really have a first line, but they do have some decent 2nd/3rd line players.... If they put a team of **** on the ice for a complete year or two just to go for the top pick in the draft, they would be sorted out very quickly (i am pretty sure the NHL would step in on conspiracy to throw games!)
Obviously, if the Leafs were finding a way to win with the team that they had on the ice (somewhat like the BRHL2 Wild) they would look to make moves to acquire a player or two.

I know this is an ELC topic, but it gets us talking about many other FHL issues.
At the end of the day, each and every team should be attempting to win each and every game. Period. If for some reason a GM isn't, he should have to pay consequences (ie: Warning, Warning, Warning...Fired)....
Not really sure of some other views on this, but that's my 2 cents.

HOTLANTA · Guru

i agree that we need to start raising the rookie's salary's (even tho it will effect me alot) i think that phasing it into the league from this draft forward would be good.. say moving the top guys from 850k up to 1.25 mill then 1.75 the next year then up by 500k untill they mimic NHL deals..

Sabres_Luke · Guru

I think it's pretty easy to see the arguments are pretty much split down the middle between top teams and bottom.

Hawks_G · Guru

Sabres_Luke wrote:

I think it's pretty easy to see the arguments are pretty much split down the middle between top teams and bottom.

Which is kind of silly since the top guys have young stars that are cheap too....like really, how long can you rebuild?

And it doesn't make sense for them either....if a top team gets a top 5 pick, then that gives them an even further edge, since they gain that cap room too.

Rumpy · Senior Member

Hawks_G wrote:

Sabres_Luke wrote:

I think it's pretty easy to see the arguments are pretty much split down the middle between top teams and bottom.

Which is kind of silly since the top guys have young stars that are cheap too....like really, how long can you rebuild?

And it doesn't make sense for them either....if a top team gets a top 5 pick, then that gives them an even further edge, since they gain that cap room too.

That was exactly my point the top teams have GM's who are smart enough to recognize, draft, and trade for young talent and then take advantage of their low salaries. It is a loop hole that should be looked into and adjusted some how.

BryceBruins · BRHL2 Co-Commish

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