Questions and Comments

Eric_Isles · BRHL2 Co-Commish

Questions and Comments

philly · Guru

why take out the OV rate is my first question...

all the more information i have the better

the good GMs understand the process that you dont look at OV to determine the players value (ales hemsky 78 OV vs. ryan malone 79 OV)

so why take away info from us??

yeah i know bryce you are just such a wonderfully talented GM that you hate it... but for us not as intelligent (this is blatant sarcasm) why can we not just have a quick gander at someones OV??

thanks

Rumpy · Senior Member

I believe you can turn OV on or off with the STHS program. Is it going to be turned off or up to a league vote?

HOTLANTA · Guru

if u read it said that it will be turned off.. another thing to factor though is our RFA calculator is based off a OV ratings aswell..

maybe try it with OV on for one year then after everyone has been given year with system take it out

PhoenixGM · Guru

I'm a little uncomfortable starting a whole new system with the OV turned off. Ask Kirk said, give us a year to figure things out, see which ratings are most important for the sim, then turn the OV off. I know it's bad to rely on OV, but with a completely new system it'll be very helpful to have the OV on so that we can have a little guidance when assessing how a player will sim...

BryceBruins · BRHL2 Co-Commish

How will the OV help you assess in anyway who will sim well? I'm in one STHS league where 90% of the dmen are between 64-66ov. OV is not important, has no relation at all to any results, and is a terrible, terrible tool to use for any reason. It is not info, it is not relevant, and I have always been strongly opposed to any OV rating when it has no effect on any results, but often is the be all and end all for many GMs.

Kirk brings up a valid point (shocking I know). And the RFA Calculator is something that I will be adjusting to reflect the lack of OV, ditto the tags.

Please do not interpret this as me dismissing any concerns, but wanting OV as a guideline is useless, it guidelines nothing. Based on the widely used STHS ratings, the star players are low 70 ov. The top goalies the same. Now how does that help you evaluate someone? Especially when like I said most dmen are in the 65-67ov range. It provides no guideline or assistance at all.

BryceBruins · BRHL2 Co-Commish

Also one other question someone emailed me. PO = Potential
Has no effect on the sim, and for ratings wise we're just going to put everyone at 99. It has no effect on the sim and is more a feature for sim rerate leagues.

PhoenixGM · Guru

BryceBruins wrote:

How will the OV help you assess in anyway who will sim well? I'm in one STHS league where 90% of the dmen are between 64-66ov. OV is not important, has no relation at all to any results, and is a terrible, terrible tool to use for any reason. It is not info, it is not relevant, and I have always been strongly opposed to any OV rating when it has no effect on any results, but often is the be all and end all for many GMs.

Kirk brings up a valid point (shocking I know). And the RFA Calculator is something that I will be adjusting to reflect the lack of OV, ditto the tags.

Please do not interpret this as me dismissing any concerns, but wanting OV as a guideline is useless, it guidelines nothing. Based on the widely used STHS ratings, the star players are low 70 ov. The top goalies the same. Now how does that help you evaluate someone? Especially when like I said most dmen are in the 65-67ov range. It provides no guideline or assistance at all.

... but I still don't undertand why the need to turn OV off - if you don't like it, just cover that column with your hand when looking at the computer screen. It's not doing any harm by being there is it?

Sabres_Luke · Guru

Question:

I guess the only thing that concerns me about a system I don't know and that I've heard groups ratings in very closely is, is this just going to make the games more of a crapshoot? Maybe some testing results would put the league's mind at ease more as to what we're really getting.

Pittsburgh GM · Senior Member

Been in a couple of STHS leagues and I will tell you once you have learned the interface, it is a much better system with a ton more info, including some not so needed info. What the hell, it is much better, time for some of you guys to give up your comfort blanket and really strive for something better !

San Jose · Senior Member

Sharks are looking forwatd to the new sim!!!..

I agree with hidding OVs...

ColoradoGM · Senior Member

Av's have never been in an STHS league, but very willing to be a part. Hate the OV!!!

PhoenixGM · Guru

What will happen to our farm OV limits?

BryceBruins · BRHL2 Co-Commish

Gonna have to be changed. The max salary helps, lets hear some suggestions. How do we make sure that teams dont send down a Toews or Gagner to minors? Make it mandatory that they play in pros if they played more than 50 NHL games? They have eligibility if they played more than 40 in minors?

Sabres_Luke · Guru

Please note: question above