ELC Idea

BryceBruins · BRHL2 Co-Commish

ELC Idea

PhoenixGM · Guru

Whatever saves you time/hastle is a good idea.

Calgary GM · Senior Member

Yeah, I can live with it. I think it's a good idea.

Anaheim GM · Guru

Yeah, that is fine by me provided that you post a list of all of them when you are done.

BluesGM · Guru

i'm wondering if we should even cap the contracts at 850k anymore? i mean with bonus, some rookies are making over 3 mill... since we can't have bonuses, why not lift the max ELC at 1.5-1.75 million?

Hawks_G · Guru

BluesGM wrote:

i'm wondering if we should even cap the contracts at 850k anymore? i mean with bonus, some rookies are making over 3 mill... since we can't have bonuses, why not lift the max ELC at 1.5-1.75 million?

That is what I brought up to the BOD. Why should guys get Kane and Gagner at such a generous cap hit, while guys have to squeeze to fit in the Heatleys and Luongos of the world?

BluesGM · Guru

Hawks_G wrote:

BluesGM wrote:

i'm wondering if we should even cap the contracts at 850k anymore? i mean with bonus, some rookies are making over 3 mill... since we can't have bonuses, why not lift the max ELC at 1.5-1.75 million?

That is what I brought up to the BOD. Why should guys get Kane and Gagner at such a generous cap hit, while guys have to squeeze to fit in the Heatleys and Luongos of the world?

i mean, in the BRHL for those of you not in it, the cap for rookies is 1.5 mill, and that is with a 42 million dollar cap... david perron (still a young player with some to learn is getting 900k in that league, more than stars like toews and others are getting in this one....

Anaheim GM · Guru

As a team with a ton of young prospects, I would clearly be impacted by this. However, I would support this fully as I believe it is best for the league. I mean, if we are going to be based on the NHL cap, shouldn't we also use their min and max salaries too?

Hawks_G wrote:

BluesGM wrote:

i'm wondering if we should even cap the contracts at 850k anymore? i mean with bonus, some rookies are making over 3 mill... since we can't have bonuses, why not lift the max ELC at 1.5-1.75 million?

That is what I brought up to the BOD. Why should guys get Kane and Gagner at such a generous cap hit, while guys have to squeeze to fit in the Heatleys and Luongos of the world?

Rumpy · Senior Member

I also have a young team and would be in favor of increasing the ELC to 1.5 or maybe even 2 for the really good young players.

-- Edited by Rumpy at 20:01, 2008-08-21

HOTLANTA · Guru

mueller-price-perron have me scared to fit under cap again LOL.. but i am 100% for this witha a cap at like 1.25 (make it incentive wise for top 10 picks setting 50pt brhl rookie pt pushing it up to 1.5 for the last two yrs of elc..or something..
possibility.

picked 1-2OV 1.3 mill 3 yr elc. (if hit 50 points in rookie year brhl2. it goes to 1.75 for final 2 yrs.)
picked 3-4-5 OV - 1.2 million 3 yr elc (if hit 50 points in rookie year brhl2. it goes to 1.6 for final 2 yrs.)
picked 6-7-8 OV- 1.1 mill 3 yr elc (if hit 50 points in rookie year brhl2. it goes to 1.5 for final 2 yrs.)
picked 9-10-11-12 OV 1 mill 3 yr elc (if hit 50 points in rookie year brhl2. it goes to 1.3 for final 2 yrs.
after top 12 i think old elc rules should apply just an idea..

Anaheim GM · Guru

I don't think the draft position should have anything to do with what they are paid...

HOTLANTA wrote:

mueller-price-perron have me scared to fit under cap again LOL.. but i am 100% for this witha a cap at like 1.25 (make it incentive wise for top 10 picks setting 50pt brhl rookie pt pushing it up to 1.5 for the last two yrs of elc..or something..
possibility.

picked 1-2OV 1.3 mill 3 yr elc. (if hit 50 points in rookie year brhl2. it goes to 1.75 for final 2 yrs.)
picked 3-4-5 OV - 1.2 million 3 yr elc (if hit 50 points in rookie year brhl2. it goes to 1.6 for final 2 yrs.)
picked 6-7-8 OV- 1.1 mill 3 yr elc (if hit 50 points in rookie year brhl2. it goes to 1.5 for final 2 yrs.)
picked 9-10-11-12 OV 1 mill 3 yr elc (if hit 50 points in rookie year brhl2. it goes to 1.3 for final 2 yrs.
after top 12 i think old elc rules should apply just an idea..

PhoenixGM · Guru

Performance bonuses are hard to track I think if it is different across the board... and it's really a pain to try to work them into the cap system - if they don't effect the cap, what's the point?

I think we should have a few GM's act as ELC agents and we can have teams negotiate contracts for their guys. We can set out a framework based on draft position but it'll be up to the GM and the Agent to determine if the player deserves that exact amount, a little more, or a little less...

We could also just have Bryce come up with all of them and we give each team two contestions (which can only be used on their OWN players) to contest if they think their guy is getting overpaid...

Hawks_G · Guru

There has to be some balance. You can't just look at draft position, etc.

But here are some numbers...

Player NHL CAP HIT BRHL CAP HIT
Malkin $3.84 million $984K
Kane $3.75 million $475K
Gagner $1.625 million $450K
Kessel $2.200 million $850K

And that will go on and on. I don't know exactly what the solution is, but no reason a guy should be able to get that huge cap relief for three years. I would suggest that our ELC for certain players might only be for one year to determine salary value. Then you could use their OV and NHL cap hit in the calculator.....

Just a thought.

BryceBruins · BRHL2 Co-Commish

**Kane and Gagner haven't been given new deals yet, thats just what the sime inputted**

Hawks_G · Guru

BryceBruins wrote:

**Kane and Gagner haven't been given new deals yet, thats just what the sime inputted**

Even if they get 850K, it wouldn't make a difference to the point.....I think we need to grandfather something in. Guys signed now are signed. We might even consider starting with my one year contract idea with guys that are signed this year.