Hawks_G wrote:

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Pittsburgh has but one thing to say about what you
are saying George, and although during the trade talks Kirk was having with me I brought up his game average for a season a thousand times, I also understand that if he is able to run a few seasons with little to no injury then the deal was well worth it.
I have a NHL calibre player for sure and one that has first or second line potential on a full time basis. I gave up a 28th OV.

Just for your information the 28th ov pick makes the NHL, or better put, makes a significant show in the NHL only 44 % of the time.

Here are all 28th ov picks since 1980 to 2001 the year Carlo was actually drafted:

                                   
                                     GMS   PTS

1980 Steve Ludzik        424 - 139
1981 Steve Gatzos          89 -  35
1982 Rene Badeau            0 -   0
1983 Jeff Jackson         263 -  86
1984 Doug Houda         561 -  82
1985 Mike Richter         666 -  11
1986 Kent Hawley              0 -   0
1987 Daniel Marois       350 - 210
1988 Paul Holden               0 -   0
1989 Mike Craig            423 - 168
1990 Brady Semchuk         1 -   0
1991 Jim Campbell        285 - 136
1992 Paul Brousseau        26 -   4
1993 Shean Donovan     856 - 226
1994 Johan Davidsson      83 -  15
1995 Jan Hlavac             436 - 224
1996 Paul Skrbek              12 -   0
1997 Brad Defauw              9 -   3
1998 Ramzi Abid               68 -  30
1999 Khristian Kudroc       26 -   4
2000 Justin Williams       459 - 306
2001 Adrian Foster              0 -   0

Average Minus Richter   
                                        208 -  79

2001 Carlo Colaiacovo    101 -  32

28th ov lookback
0 Superstars
3 Stars
7 True Nhlers with 200 plus games career
7 Cups Of Tea
5 No Shows

I don't think Carlo is a bad pick up at even his injured best. Imagine what he will do full time on a poor leaf team where he gets much more minutes and hopefully stays healthy.

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Clark, 2 seasons, three with a tag.  Colaiacovo...let's talk about how many games per season he has played...

1999-00	Erie Otters	OHL	52
2000-01	Erie Otters	OHL	62
2001-02	Erie Otters	OHL	60
2002-03	Toronto Maple Leafs	NHL	2
2002-03	Erie Otters	OHL	35
2003-04	St. John's Maple Leafs	AHL	62
2003-04	Toronto Maple Leafs	NHL	2
2004-05	St. John's Maple Leafs	AHL	49
2005-06	Toronto Maple Leafs	NHL	21
2005-06	Toronto Marlies	AHL	14
2006-07	Toronto Maple Leafs	NHL	48
2006-07	Toronto Marlies	AHL	5
2007-08	Toronto Maple Leafs	NHL	28
2007-08	Toronto Marlies	AHL	2

   
53 games max in the last 4 seasons.(Including a 30 last year, 35 in 05-06)  A whopping 64 the year before, preceded by a nice spanky 37 game season.

I wasn't trying to compare my trade for a first to yours, but Clark with three seasons is infinitely more valuable than a 25 year old "prospect" that averages 40 games a season.

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-- Edited by Pittsburgh GM at 16:37, 2008-08-11

Panthers wrote:

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Hawks_G wrote:

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HOTLANTA wrote:

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i agree i got good value on carlo george.. like u did on clark..

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Now let's get into something we can both sink our teeth into....

Boston trades Matt Greene to Floridafor Eric Perrin, 32nd OV, and a 7th in 2009

Greene sucks horribly. The fact that he got a good rated Perrin and just outside the first round for him is an undeniable steal. Nice work Bryce....bye bye Mancrush. ;)

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Greene was a risk, but a worthwhile one. He is 23, phsyical, and a legit NHL dman. Perrin is decently rated, but Greene's IT, ST, DF ratings make him every bit as useful. I gave up the 32 because I got the guy 10 years younger. If he is a solid #4-5 in LA, and they really have nobody else even if Doughty plays in the NHL, I will be very happy.

 

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It is a calculated risk, for sure...might be a useful blueliner.  On a team with little experience he might get some play. 

I hope it works out for you...

 

the # of teams with bigtime cap dollars is nuts. lots also looking to compete so i think myself ufa is hard way to build especially this year..

u do however have great goalie and a star d-man so who knows..

no heatley liked his time at center last year the line combinations look like this so far for the thrashers
Hemsky 78-Heatley 83- Kovalchuk 86- Chara 86- Ranger 78
Cole 79- Doan 82- Mueller 74- Zubov 81- P.Martin 77

yeah, which should mean the position changes that were in place should be reversed to their original positions, i remember discussing the jokinen rule with either bryce or eric was that we would be getting one a season... after the season ends, i was under the impression that the player would then switch back to their default position... eric or bryce, correct me if i'm wrong?

schubert is moving to wing ;)

doan is moving to center ;) hockeydb.com him ;)

and heatley is staying at center. the olli jokinen rule coming into affect means we dont get another guy to switch to a strange position... the players switched last yr cant be switched or what was the point of the rule to begin with? not wanting it to happen again they took the rule out.. thats the way i understand it..

Kovalchuk86-Heatley 83- Hemsky 78-Chara 86- Ranger 78
Cole79-Doan82-Mueller74- Zubov 81- Martin 77
Schubert 75- Pahlsson 74- Mccarthur 69- Zanon 75- Staios 76
4th line to be determined.. and Martinek 75 will be playing as my number 7 d-man but on a nightly basis..

i need to move some picks for a solid couple depth players is all..

Year: 2008: Col 1, Buf 1, Edm 2, LA 2, Van 2, Bos 2, StL 2, Clb 2, Pit 3, StL 3, Van 3, Cal 3, Edm 3, Pho 3, Ana 4, Phi 4, NYI 4, Clb 4, Dal 4, Van 5, SJ 5, Edm 5, Car 5, Nsh 6, Dal 6
Year: 2009: Pit 1, Clb 1, SJ 1, Nsh 1, Pho 3, SJ 3, Clb 3, StL 4, SJ 4, Atl 5, Phi 5, Bos 5, StL 5, SJ 5, Atl 6, Bos 6, Pho 6, SJ 6, Atl 7, StL 7, Bos 7, SJ 7

the team feels they should be able to get that done..