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Best/Worst UFA deals


I dont like it. I like it how it is now. GMs will learnt fast and hard when they get massive fines for dealing a "problem contract" after these ridiculous signings. They've already had their fair share of warnings.

The system works fine.

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Maybe I missed something, but what is the relationship between a player's salary and team revenues?  It seems very arbitrary and I don't think that is the solution to slow raising salaries. 

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Without looking at the rules first i say this, do we not have a rule where a player can only be paid a percentage of what the team actually has in the bank before FA period. This might solve a lot of the problems with overspending especially with teams with lots of cap space but little income.

EX: Team A has a 24 Mill dollar payroll going into FA period for the following year which would give them a 20 mill dolar spending limit before cap failure. However they have only 21 Mill in actual team revenue not including assets. If a team was only able to spend up to 30% of its actual revenue left in this case the 21 Mill then tops they would be able to bid on any one player in FA would be 6.3 Mill a year.   6.3 Million being 30% of 21 Million

This would help keep escalating salaries down. Top teams more than likely will have smaller cap space and therefore will not be able to nail the top dollars on players anyhow. If they are capable of bidding a ton because of lots of cap space and a ton of revenue then the GM has done a masterful job.

I also think a trade freeze should be implemented during the FA period.

What do you guys think of this solution for next season ?    confused

-- Edited by Pittsburgh GM at 19:31, 2007-08-22







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following the nhl.... the salary cap will jump up next season

so even the Lidstrom signing won't be so crippling, just limits additional additions down the road

making a 13 mill salary cap hit for the nhl's best player seem manageable

-- Edited by Islanders GM at 19:37, 2007-08-22

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Well right now Sabres the system works fantastic to your favour which i notice when something is to your advantage you love it but if it is not you are very critical of it so although I thought you might have something more constructive to say about i think you have shown your real face.

And as far as salaries and revenue being connected they are directly connected cause salaries always effect your revenue and is a way to control over spending not just for bad GMs who run amuck with salaries but to help teams who prefer to be more financailly responsible than others by keeping the playing field a little more even which has got to be good for the league as Sabres are always claiming they are fighting for. This system also rewards the Gms who manage their teams best and hurts those who spend stupid.........simple !

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what kind of idiot gave recchi a 7 mill contract plus a 3.5 mill signing bonus.....

oh wait that was me....

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Best/worst trades of the day:

Best:

#1 Michael Peca (DALLAS STARS)
2 years @ 2 million
2 million SB

He'll be on a scoring line for the BlueJackets and most importantly is on a 1-year deal to play his heart out and get the contract he wants where he wants after that. Will re-rate upward from an elite defensive (80 def) player to a 74-76 ov player for the following season.

#2 Curtis Joseph (DETROIT RED WINGS)
2 years @ 1.5 million
1.5 million SB

A 76 ov goalie for that salary in this UFA market is great.

#3 Jaroslav Spacek (BOSTON BRUINS)
4 years @ 2.4 million
4.8 million SB

Love this signing. To pay a longterm 2 mill something contract to a 32 year old is a great move if you believe in the player. A solid asset addition.

Worst: (no real bad signings, but..)

#1 Mark Recchi (ST. LOUIS BLUES)
1 year @ 7.5 million
3.5 million SB

Only a one-year contract? That means he cannot be tagged, according to the BRHL2 rules. Why wasn't more bonus money committed to get the second year and possible tag for a third year? This player will get prime scoring minutes in the NHL as well as his standard powerplay time on a team with plenty of players to help his scoring stats stay up. He will re-rate near the same and would have been a tradeable asset at the trading deadline or next offseason. Instead, he will for sure be a UFA next summer. One has to believe he will have the worst year of his career next season and re-rate significantly down from 78 ov to make this signing a good one. 

#2 Derek Armstrong (EDMONTON OILERS)
3 years @ 1.9 million

A good idea if you believe the player is worth it, but this 34 year old will be a fourth liner in the NHL this coming season by all consideration and his 71 ov is to go down. A two-year deal would have been better. Still, a 72 passing rating with 70 speed makes for some backline impact for now! Not so bad.

#3 Niklas Lidstrom (SAN JOSE SHARKS)
1 year @ 13 million
6.5 million SB

Hahahaha. One year? I almost like this signing then! Get the premier defenseman for this year, and San Jose can EASILY afford this signing this season. Lidstrom will be a UFA next summer for sure (since tags cannot be put on 1-yr UFA signings as per Eric's instruction) and San Jose can decide THEN whether to blow everyone else away with a similar offer. Not too bad at all.


-- Edited by Islanders GM at 21:10, 2007-08-22

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considering that after this season i believe that recchi would retire, i rather keep the extra 3.5 mill cash saved... that's why i only offered him a one year deal

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BluesGM wrote:

considering that after this season i believe that recchi would retire, i rather keep the extra 3.5 mill cash saved... that's why i only offered him a one year deal




Whether he retires or not he will be rated in the BRHL2 next season! To not get at least a 2-year contract is a waste of opportunity.

Oh well, another 75-79 ov UFA next summer for us to bid on. cake.gif

-- Edited by Islanders GM at 21:09, 2007-08-22

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I second the Spacek deal. I was the other team bidding on them, and was pretty close to that, just didn't want to go much over. I think he had a tough year last year, but can bounce back and be a solid 2nd pairing dman at a cheap price.

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Pittsburgh GM wrote:

Well right now Sabres the system works fantastic to your favour which i notice when something is to your advantage you love it but if it is not you are very critical of it so although I thought you might have something more constructive to say about i think you have shown your real face.

And as far as salaries and revenue being connected they are directly connected cause salaries always effect your revenue and is a way to control over spending not just for bad GMs who run amuck with salaries but to help teams who prefer to be more financailly responsible than others by keeping the playing field a little more even which has got to be good for the league as Sabres are always claiming they are fighting for. This system also rewards the Gms who manage their teams best and hurts those who spend stupid.........simple !






LOL. Its called we paid 50 bucks to be in this league, if you wanna eff your team over by overspending, go ahead.

Like I said a while back, Im not going to bother wasting my time trying to level the playing field anymore because everyone just criticizes you no matter what. Im going to stay within the rules, build as good a team as I can and enjoy being a fan of the NHL by being in such an in depth league. Is there something wrong with that Pittsburgh?

-- Edited by Sabres at 21:45, 2007-08-22

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Sabres wrote:

 Im going to stay within the rules, build as good a team as I can

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The blues were pretty smart to give Recchi only a one year deal.

Sidney Crosby could play with two 50lbs sandbags around his waist, and the team could play a man down, and they would be better off than having Recchi play on his wing.

The pens have better wingers now, hopefully he isn't on one of the top two lines, unless as an injury replacement. I think he is rated 73OV next BRHL season, with most of that coming from high EX/LD numbers

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Ianintheam wrote:

The blues were pretty smart to give Recchi only a one year deal.

Sidney Crosby could play with two 50lbs sandbags around his waist, and the team could play a man down, and they would be better off than having Recchi play on his wing.

The pens have better wingers now, hopefully he isn't on one of the top two lines, unless as an injury replacement. I think he is rated 73OV next BRHL season, with most of that coming from high EX/LD numbers




Recchi is dead weight? only a third liner next season? not much powerplay time?

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That is a HUGE gutsy prediction. Everything he has done, even at his age, has shown otherwise.

The great thing about this: we'll be able to check back next spring and see if you're right. (I dunno anyone else who thinks likewise. But I'm from Kamloops and I talk to hockey fans who follow him perhaps too closely. A sudden tanking in his career after such a long remarkably steady career seems unlikely, but time will tell) 



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My apologies. I thought it was a comment towards my team..smile

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In all honesty, I comfused Armstrong with another player. I was hoping someone would overbid me but it didn't happen. I probably spent 500,000 too much but in the end he isn't that bad of a 3rd liner.

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