Best/Worst UFA deals

LAKings · Senior Member

RE: Best/Worst UFA deals

Islanders GM · Senior Member

Congratulations to Mike in Vancouver

whose Canucks just signed Dominik Hasek (79 ov) to a two-year deal, costing only 5.0 million per year against the cap. A good signing for a starting goaltender given there aren't enough to go around!

capsgm · Senior Member

yes, that was a great signing imo. good job canucks!

VancouverGM · Senior Member

capsgm wrote:
yes, that was a great signing imo. good job canucks!

ilslanders gm wrote:
Congratulations to Mike in Vancouver whose Canucks just signed Dominik Hasek (79 ov) to a two-year deal, costing only 5.0 million per year against the cap. A good signing for a starting goaltender given there aren't enough to go around!

Thank you guys, im def happy with the new addition

Anaheim GM · Guru

I predict there will be 3 or 4 teams that will have major cap problems following UFA such that they will have to give up picks and prospects just to get another team with cap space to take their big signing so that they can get under the cap in time for the regular season.

I've calculated that teams have an average of $10.5M in cap space available to them. Approximately $305M has been offered in salary and signing bonuses. That likely amounts to somewhere around $220M in salaries alone. That is an average of $7.5M per team... If free agency were to end right now, each team would have an average of $40M in salaries to the cap. So for every team that is just under $37M, you'd expect there to be a team to be just over $43M, all other things being equal...

This is dangerous territory boys... Don't risk the future of your clubs or else the league itself may be in jeopardy.

Hawks_G · Guru

Anaheim GM wrote:

This is dangerous territory boys... Don't risk the future of your clubs or else the league itself may be in jeopardy.

Shhhhhhhhhh. Let 'em fry!!! biggrin

Sabres · Guru

Speaking of all this cap stuff, I think that the sponsorship for having a team under XXXX amount of dollars, up until game 41 or whatever it was, should be a bit larger this year. Thats kind of impressive to do something like that, and makes it a bit more realistic.

Right now there are about 25 teams thinking they got a legit shot at the cup, I guess its not bad, but there should be a bit more incentive to rebuild through that one sponsorship.

-- Edited by Sabres at 01:05, 2007-08-22

OilersBrent · Senior Member

I think the biggest reason these salaries are so high is because there is no maximum price amount allowed. This is killer in a cap system. At the rate certain players are going (Jagr, Sakic, Lidstrom) they will be taking up between 25-30% of the teams cap space.

While I say this, it's hard to run a UFA period similar to the NHL with agents, players/wives/pets/pronger preferring different cities, etc etc because it would be too subjective.

Islanders GM · Senior Member

OilersBrent wrote:

I think the biggest reason these salaries are so high is because there is no maximum price amount allowed. This is killer in a cap system. At the rate certain players are going (Jagr, Sakic, Lidstrom) they will be taking up between 25-30% of the teams cap space.

Running a fantasy sports franchise is as much about team management as it is about winning championships.

Running a team into the ground for the sake of a cup run is on par with overpaying for a superstar to the point of crippling chances to compete.

Sabres_Luke · Guru

Islanders GM wrote:

Running a team into the ground for the sake of a cup run is on par with overpaying for a superstar to the point of crippling chances to compete.

no comment.

OilersBrent · Senior Member

Islanders GM wrote:

OilersBrent wrote:

I think the biggest reason these salaries are so high is because there is no maximum price amount allowed. This is killer in a cap system. At the rate certain players are going (Jagr, Sakic, Lidstrom) they will be taking up between 25-30% of the teams cap space.
Running a fantasy sports franchise is as much about team management as it is about winning championships.

Running a team into the ground for the sake of a cup run is on par with overpaying for a superstar to the point of crippling chances to compete.

Running a team into the ground for the annual shot at winning the draft lottery is on par with overpaying for a superstar.

-- Edited by OilersBrent at 18:16, 2007-08-22

Sabres · Guru

I dont think so at all, as long as you do it smart. Look at how our team did it, we look at least average now.

-- Edited by Sabres at 18:20, 2007-08-22

Islanders GM · Senior Member

OilersBrent wrote:

Taking a blow at my team eh...

huh? I was thinking about Phoenix, which traded away its assets for a huge bunch of one-year deals.

The other team I was thinking about was Columbus, but they at least have a few superstars still under contract whereas Phoenix went from prime contender to Shanahan tag and mass rebuilding. And both those teams are under new management (Phoenix has had some real good trades this offseason, which will help).

I think your team Brent was pretty well balanced, and you made a couple of significant trades with me to put that contender together. Wasn't meant as a knock against your team at all. Any team with Ilya Kovalchuk, Maxim Afinogenov, Marc Savard, Jason Blake and Kyle Wellwood under contract hasn't exactly gutted the team for a one-year cup run.

-- Edited by Islanders GM at 18:25, 2007-08-22

Sabres · Guru

I think if I took over either of those franchises I mighta rebuilded too. Though not quite as extensively.

Pittsburgh GM · Senior Member

Without looking at the rules first i say this, do we not have a rule where a player can only be paid a percentage of what the team actually has in the bank before FA period. This might solve a lot of the problems with overspending especially with teams with lots of cap space but little income.

EX: Team A has a 24 Mill dollar payroll going into FA period for the following year which would give them a 20 mill dolar spending limit before cap failure. However they have only 21 Mill in actual team revenue not including assets. If a team was only able to spend up to 30% of its actual revenue left in this case the 21 Mill then tops they would be able to bid on any one player in FA would be 6.3 Mill a year. 6.3 Million being 30% of 21 Million

This would help keep escalating salaries down. Top teams more than likely will have smaller cap space and therefore will not be able to nail the top dollars on players anyhow. If they are capable of bidding a ton because of lots of cap space and a ton of revenue then the GM has done a masterful job.

I also think a trade freeze should be implemented during the FA period.

What do you guys think of this solution for next season ? confused

-- Edited by Pittsburgh GM at 19:35, 2007-08-22