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RE: Opinions on Trades- Preseason 2007


To get Visnovsky (79 ov) and Saprykin I traded away Carl Soderberg, Sean Bergenheim, Karri Ramo, Kris Russell to Washington.

Minutes after posting the trade, Buffalo offers Loui Eriksson for Visnovsky and thinks it's a good deal for me.

Do y'all think Eriksson is worth having instead of Soderberg, Bergenheim, Ramo and Russell?

I think that's like 90/10... unless Eriksson is the next Malkin.

What's your take?


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Soderberg is good, Bergheim will never be more than 72, Ramo is a career backup, and I was under the impression it was Ryan Russel because I thought Kris was already dealt.


Eriksson is on top line Dallas this year, why do you think they didnt make a splash on the UFA market.

Eriksson will be a future 76 overall player+

For soderberg..
Bergheim never be more than 72
Ramo career backup
and Ryan Russel ( i thought). Who wont be above 70.

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Eriksson is on top line Dallas this year

Just like you said Noah Clarke will get Top-3 minutes in Florida this coming season! (when everyplace I look everyone is saying he's competing for 5th or 6th spot on the Panthers blueline).

Let's let the hfboard veterans (not the youngsters there) who actually go to Stars training camps have their say about Eriksson:

Has not show an ability to get in good shooting positions, is not great with the puck

He's also shown that he gets knocked off the puck and the play pretty easily by physical players. He either needs to get more elusive (a la Ribeiro) or stronger like Jokinen seemed to last year. Without that, his ceiling will be in the 25-30 point range. With a bit more muscle and poise, I'm hoping he can get up to 40 points this year.

Eriksson may struggle to put on a great deal of mass. Shake his hand and you'll see that he has a thin skeletal frame. His wrists aren't real thick (he has muscle, it's just around a slender frame) and his hands and ankles are thin, too. This isn't all bad, it just is, and people with naturally thin frames have trouble bulking up to 200 pounds, etc.

Eriksson can still do things to improve his balance on the puck so that he doesn't get knocked off, like weightlifting, plyometrics, and sprint intervals. Those all increase leg strength, and plyos help with balance, too. In the AHL, Eriksson was able to use his speed and intelligence in protecting the puck along the boards and in the corners. He won most of such one-on-one battles as his AHL experience progressed. His scoring came down to his breakaway speed and breakaway passes (primarily from Toby Petersen). Give Eriksson a chance to skate with say Mike Ribeiro, and he should put up the sort of numbers you'd expect out of a second liner.

I personally do not think Eriksson will become more than a good second liner.
 
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?p=10151924#post10151924

And the magazines have him projected as a 2nd liner... what makes you think he'll be first line this coming year?

There's reason to think Carl Soderberg = Loui Eriksson ... making the other three prospects a real bonus (and yes it's Kris Russell in the deal, wasn't traded earlier).



-- Edited by Islanders GM at 18:06, 2007-08-10

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Just like you said Noah Clarke will get Top-3 minutes in Florida this coming season!



Oh vanny. Buddy just stop talking sometimes.

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I would have liked Eriksson but I've been a big fan of Soderberg for awhile and Ramo gives me G depth I don't have and Bergenheim gives me solid future 3rd liner.

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the team is thrilled about the pick-up of henrik tallinder who will be a force for the team for many seasons playing out his current two year deal then signing a long term extension with the team probably. the team has had tallinder targetted since the original entry draft in the brhl.

the team is also happy to be able to shed alot of cap space while getting similar rated young players back.


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team is also thrilled about buying stan chistov and the van 2nd from the rangers for 7 million dollars.

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i had a beautiful sunday hike on a Korean mountain this sunday (sunday night here now) and i got the corvo deal done saturday, one way or another, because i wanted to get it done friday and definitely didnt want to be thinking about it sunday!

*yawn* now bedtime

see y'all monday

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to atlanta- joe corvo
to NYI- Sergei Kostsitsyn, Scott Clemmensen, atl 7th (last pick of draft lol)


Fair trade if it was Andrei, but Sergei is a joke- He'll never make the show. His inflated stats in London can be attributed to his teammates.


Atl kills again...

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to calgary- sammy pahlsson, derek boogaard, ryan johnson, aron voros
to atlanta- mason

sad to see sammy go but the team feels his lack of PP time will haunt him forever in this league the team in anahiem doesnt let him ever play pp really hurting his puck control for the sim. and the team felt good about mason's league value. the rest of the assests sent to the flames were worth 5th rounders.



to atlanta- Stafford + Alexeev + Ana 4
to anahiem- Mason + $500k

the team had originally thought after previous dicussion with another g.m in the league that the team would aquire mason and make a deal with that g.m.. after getting mason the guy didnt back out just said hed need some time something atlanta management never has ;)
the team was already in discussion with anahiem about stafford but once the deal turned to mason things started to really pick up.. this deal makes the team happy to land what it feels is a franchise young center in drew stafford. who is equal to mason for the team.

the team loves drew offensive potential and with his probable linemates being Dereck Roy/Tim Connolly and jason pominville/jochen hecht/ thomas vanek/afinoganov.

to phoenix- st.louis 1st, joe corvo
to atlanta- travis zajac.

very happy to aquire this young phenom we believe he will be a top 2 line player for the devils this season and get 25 goals 40 assists and be a bigtime part of the Thrashers long term plans

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Sabres_Luke wrote:

Eriksson is on top line Dallas this year, why do you think they didnt make a splash on the UFA market.

Eriksson will be a future 76 overall player+



right weirdfaceweirdfaceweirdfaceconfusedconfusedideaideaideaidea   can i get a look at the crystal ball where u know guys overall ratings for the future. like scott gomez isnt even that good. 76 ov. so erickson in your opinion in the prime of his career will be better than scott gomez is right now??



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damn, chris mason went cheap (the first time)!

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to phoenix alex picard, bos 3rd
to atlanta brian lee (ottawa prospect d-man), phoenix 5th

team likes lee's upside far more than 0 goals in 28 nhl games picard :)


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holy, how many teams are going to deal with ATL? This is ridiculous...

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HOTLANTA wrote:

Sabres_Luke wrote:

Eriksson is on top line Dallas this year, why do you think they didnt make a splash on the UFA market.

Eriksson will be a future 76 overall player+



right weirdfaceweirdfaceweirdfaceconfusedconfusedideaideaideaidea   can i get a look at the crystal ball where u know guys overall ratings for the future. like scott gomez isnt even that good. 76 ov. so erickson in your opinion in the prime of his career will be better than scott gomez is right now??



I think our track record speaks for itself Kirk...

Gomez got underrated, nice comparison...



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