Philippe27 wrote:

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I want the rule clarified but when I asked to have it done in mid-season it didn,t work so why would we make it retroactive now? That would make no sense. This isn't even a new rule because as I said Bryce wasn't allowing 50% for RFA's, that's for UFA's, the percentage just has to be clarified and told to everyone .

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so let me get this straight filip.

after you've signed lots of key guys to long-term, under-valued deals... and made over 40 million in cash..... now you want the commishes to reform the free agent system... granted of course that you dont have to re-negotiate those deals???

hmmm. sounds like youve got the BRHL2 best interest's in mind again....

HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE HOW BIG AN ADVANTAGE THIS IS???


Buffalo was right in the fact that there needs to be a rules change, and his example of his own team being significantly UNDER-budget was a perfect example of why....

But if there is going to be a rule change on this, it ABSOLUTELY 100% has got to include EVERY contract signed... and it has to be done soon because we dont want to drag free agency too long into the fall (although it wouldnt hurt to take it right to the end of september)


I cant believe we dont just make it every NHL deal is within 10% of the annual total... and adjust SB's down to 20% of total deal MAX (including RFA's signed during season 1)....

THIS WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF EVERY GM IN THE LEAGUE SAVE MAYBE 2 OR 3..... AND IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF COMPETITION IN THE BRHL2


rex leak

philly wrote:

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Philippe27 wrote:

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I want the rule clarified but when I asked to have it done in mid-season it didn,t work so why would we make it retroactive now? That would make no sense. This isn't even a new rule because as I said Bryce wasn't allowing 50% for RFA's, that's for UFA's, the percentage just has to be clarified and told to everyone .

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so let me get this straight filip.

after you've signed lots of key guys to long-term, under-valued deals... and made over 40 million in cash..... now you want the commishes to reform the free agent system... granted of course that you dont have to re-negotiate those deals???

hmmm. sounds like youve got the BRHL2 best interest's in mind again....

HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE HOW BIG AN ADVANTAGE THIS IS???


Buffalo was right in the fact that there needs to be a rules change, and his example of his own team being significantly UNDER-budget was a perfect example of why....

But if there is going to be a rule change on this, it ABSOLUTELY 100% has got to include EVERY contract signed... and it has to be done soon because we dont want to drag free agency too long into the fall (although it wouldnt hurt to take it right to the end of september)


I cant believe we dont just make it every NHL deal is within 10% of the annual total... and adjust SB's down to 20% of total deal MAX (including RFA's signed during season 1)....

THIS WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF EVERY GM IN THE LEAGUE SAVE MAYBE 2 OR 3..... AND IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF COMPETITION IN THE BRHL2


rex leak

 

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#1 Learn to spell my name correctly
#2 Rules have already been adjusted, try and read them, it could be useful.
#3 I asked mid-season after signing only 2 contracts to have the rule clarified and I was turned down, so talk to Eric not me.
#4 I'm not on the BOD anymore so I couldn't care less about the best interest of competition in the BRHL2 anymore. I'm in this to win more than I was when it started and I don't care what everyone else thinks. Call me a "french piece of trash" (oh wait you already have) or a cheater or whatever you want, I'm in this to have fun and to win and I will.

 

-- Edited by Philippe27 at 17:19, 2007-07-31

Ok, I noticed the changes in the rules. I wasnt sure that this had been done yet.

For anyone else wondering. The changes have been voted upon and adjusted in the rules. All changes are in red text. I agree with almost all of them for what its worth.

Nice Job Eric/Bryce.

Maybe we should lock this thread to avoid any more arguing.

i cant believe we even have to have this discussion.... there shouldnt even be a debate about this.... i think about 20+ GMs in the league would be all for implementing changes to signing bonuses, etc.... and I dont think many people will stand for others having "CHEATED" the system....

Philippe27 wrote:

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-Bryce said that 50% is for UFA's and for RFA's he limits them based on his best judgement which has seemed to be around 20-25%.
-I had a discussion with both Bryce and Eric asking to add that to the rules and say put a limit on RFA siging bonuses around 10-15%, I just wanted the rule to be clarified so that everyone would be aware of it.
-Eric thought 10% or so was too low and we had a long discussion and they decided that the rule will stay like that for now and will be revisited in the off-season.

Patrice Bergeron -
*3 years - $2,750,000
Signing Bonus $4,000,000*

signing bonus is 1.33 mil per/year. contract @ 2.75 mil/year... just quick mental math puts this @ around 45%....

so my question.... ONCE AGAIN...... is why are there some deals that are under an old set of rules (50%) and some under a new set of rules (15%)..... ESPECIALLY WHEN THE CONTRACTS UNDER THE 50% SET OF RULES ARE FOR NEXT SEASON?????

couldnt the contracts all be under the same set of rules??

seeing as how the season is yet to even start.... and free agency has yet to as well....


we should use the next week or two to finish re-doing all the previous deals and getting all players not yet signed signed or into the free agent pool....

philly wrote:

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Philippe27 wrote:

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-Bryce said that 50% is for UFA's and for RFA's he limits them based on his best judgement which has seemed to be around 20-25%.
-I had a discussion with both Bryce and Eric asking to add that to the rules and say put a limit on RFA siging bonuses around 10-15%, I just wanted the rule to be clarified so that everyone would be aware of it.
-Eric thought 10% or so was too low and we had a long discussion and they decided that the rule will stay like that for now and will be revisited in the off-season.

Patrice Bergeron -
*3 years - $2,750,000
Signing Bonus $4,000,000*

signing bonus is 1.33 mil per/year. contract @ 2.75 mil/year... just quick mental math puts this @ around 45%....

so my question.... ONCE AGAIN...... is why are there some deals that are under an old set of rules (50%) and some under a new set of rules (15%)..... ESPECIALLY WHEN THE CONTRACTS UNDER THE 50% SET OF RULES ARE FOR NEXT SEASON?????

couldnt the contracts all be under the same set of rules??

seeing as how the season is yet to even start.... and free agency has yet to as well....


we should use the next week or two to finish re-doing all the previous deals and getting all players not yet signed signed or into the free agent pool....

 

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There's an error on the board, it's actually 2 million bonus, to quote Bryce:
"hmm is Bergerons contract on the RFA section of board wrong? it should be 3 years at 2.75 with a 2 million SB shoudlnt it?"
"I have 2 million on my chart, we're going with that....... 3 million would have been too much of a %"
That's 24% and the highest I've seen I think is like 25% and that was Lehtonen I believe.