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A section of the board called "sim Results". Just a place we can give our thoughts about each sim ect? In my other league, after every sim we usually have about 7 or 8 posts about how some people did.

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Eric and bryce...you guys still there or what? A little concerned with the lack of response after this long.

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It wasn't even a full day and a half, and about a topic that really has no urgency attached to it...



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I wasnt looking for an action. I was looking for an acknowledgement to my question..

But i wouldn't really expect anything less from how we've been dealt with this year..

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Yes, we've all been so hard done by and been treated so shabily.

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Sabres wrote:

I wasnt looking for an action. I was looking for an acknowledgement to my question..

But i wouldn't really expect anything less from how we've been dealt with this year..

 first off, you can do it on the main board, it's fine.


secondly, respect is a two way street.


 


I've been MUCH busier than I've wanted to be, not getting home till about 9pm or so at night, which is why the games have been simmed later than normal.  I check the board and stuff as often as possible, but don't really log in sometimes if I am just reading (as I'm sure is the case with others).



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Yeah, I suppose we are mostly just annoyed with the BOD's decisions and tardiness with their decisions. I think that being a BOD member should be based on activity within the league and especially based on number of posts. Some people claim to be active but if they dont post how can they be trusted to supply the league with TYPED responses to deals and what not either?

I also think BOD members should maybe be voted on for each division. Each division has 5 teams, so thatd be a perfect vote. Any team should be able to put in their ballot for being on the BOD IF THEY ARE A TOP 15 GM in terms of activity.

Just an idea, but thats how things are changed right? Ideas are kicked around and refined, so hopefully we have been able to stir up a fire about this subject :) We dont mean problems. We just want parity.

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Yeah, I suppose we are mostly just annoyed with the BOD's decisions and tardiness with their decisions. I think that being a BOD member should be based on activity within the league and especially based on number of posts. Some people claim to be active but if they dont post how can they be trusted to supply the league with TYPED responses to deals and what not either?
I would be 100% opposed to that idea.  Quantity of posts is absolutely meaningless when it comes to the ability to look at things rationally and in an unbiased manner, and the ability to be in a decision making/influencing position. 

And let's be realistic and see the BRHL2 for what it is... a fantasy hockey league, that's there for fun and entertainment (although yes, minor amounts of money do exist in this league).  At the end of the day, the BRHL2 is sure as hell pretty far down the list when it comes to priorities in my life.  And I'm pretty sure that it's that way for most of the GMs in the league as well.  Not putting up a tonne of posts doesn't mean anything.

 



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Quantity of posts is absolutely meaningless when it comes to the ability to look at things rationally and in an unbiased manner



 I suppose we knew that when the first BOD was choosen? No we didnt. We mean that its taken over 5 months for an RFA signing process to happen. Mainly because of the BOD..not all of them, but some..So what makes you think those already on the board are rational. I could give you about 5 example of completely irrational behavior.



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Dude stop blaming the BOD for the RFA signing process, all the BOD does is review the signings once they have been approved by Bryce or Eric and rarely does it ever take more than two days for the BOD to decide on those.
The Entry Draft vote has taken a long time because I don't believe all the BOD members check the board constantly which I think is something that will need to be addressed in the off-season but let's relax a little.

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I suppose we knew that when the first BOD was choosen? No we didnt. We mean that its taken over 5 months for an RFA signing process to happen. Mainly because of the BOD..not all of them, but some..So what makes you think those already on the board are rational. I could give you about 5 example of completely irrational behavior.

So... what you're saying is that we should do something in a poor way... because that's the way it was done the first time?

 



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Sabres wrote:I suppose we knew that when the first BOD was choosen? No we didnt. We mean that its taken over 5 months for an RFA signing process to happen. Mainly because of the BOD..not all of them, but some..So what makes you think those already on the board are rational. I could give you about 5 example of completely irrational behavior.
So... what you're saying is that we should do something in a poor way... because that's the way it was done the first time?

 

 Dude, sometimes your so annoying. I think we generally agree on things but you seem to get in bad mood and just argue pointlessly. 

No i dont think it should be done in a poor way. I think there are 2 main problems with the current board 1)being irrational 2) and most important...takes to long to decide..


Now at least Aaron's suggestion kills one of the 2 problems. Do i personally thing it should be done by posts? NO, over half the posts could be mindless..But there is at least a plus side to it.

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Dude, sometimes your so annoying. I think we generally agree on things but you seem to get in bad mood and just argue pointlessly. No i dont think it should be done in a poor way. I think there are 2 main problems with the current board 1)being irrational 2) and most important...takes to long to decide..Now at least Aaron's suggestion kills one of the 2 problems. Do i personally thing it should be done by posts? NO, over half the posts could be mindless..But there is at least a plus side to it.
Call me annoying all you like, it doesn't change anything.  Despite what you may believe, I don't go around disagreeing with people just to disagree with them.  I really couldn't care less if you find me annoying, like me, hate me, despise me, or don't care at all. 

The fact that I would be totally opposed to chosing BOD members based on (even partially) the number of posts someone makes is based on a logical and rational arguement. 

Suggesting it solves one of two problems is simply put, wrong, or at the very least, a balancing act.  Increasing the speed of decisions?  Hey, let's just flip a coin on all things!  It's a super fast way to do it!  Oh wait... doing it fast without the rest is useless.  And things "taking too long" is also very subjective to begin with.  Given that as I mentioned, this is something extremely low on my list of priorities in life, it really isn't any sort of issue for me if the BOD takes days or a week to decide an issue (unless of course, timing is critical to the decision and it affects things immediately). 

The  response was made "who says the BOD is rational now?" when I commented about how chosing BOD members by number of posts doesn't have squat to do with being able to be in a decision making/influence role and being rationale.  Like or not, that implies that exactly what I said afterwards, that the suggestion is ok because we didn't look at those things before.  Hate the way I put it, i don't care, but comment is a valid one based on what's been said.


 



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Hmmm,

A lot of things that could be said to address them.

1.  I know nothing that the BOD has been slow on.
2.  The BOD is made up of people that I am sure Eric and Bryce have history with.  No real reason to put a bunch of wildcard GMs that you don't know in a position of power.
3.  Personally, I don't care for the job, but offered to help.
4.  Number of posts is ridiculous to assess a GM.  Personally, I check the boards several times daily.  I don't want to put down the discussions, because they do have value, but usually, they are not my cup of tea, and I have nothing to add.  When I do, I post.
5.  If you check the AWAY, Bryce noted an absence until mid April, and I have sensed Eric's frustration at times with some of the tone of the discussion.  It doesn't suprise me he doesn't want to get involved in a quagmire of discussion.
6.  If anyone wants my BOD position, fill your boots, it is a thankless position that gets attacked on a regular basis, most times without reason.
7.  For the most part everyone on the Board is rational.  Probably why they don't get involved in the plentiful amount of pissing contests on the boards.

My 2.78 cents.


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How is my suggestion a bad one? The new BOD members would be active if voted in. You are completely disregarding that itd still have to be a vote in order to be a BOD member. Basically the only way to win votes from your division to get into the BOD's is by proving you know what you are doing right? I dont think any GMs would vote for a guy who has a ton of posts but doesnt have any hockey knowledge. If that did happen, itd be the own divisions fault for voting him in and we'd have to live with it for a year. Big woop.

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-- Edited by Sabres at 00:51, 2007-04-04

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