Releasing the highest paid player on a team UNDER the floor would be kind of counter productive no?

Granted we overlooked setting out a defined penalty for being under the floor, but the top paid player leaving is for the salary ceiling.

The thing EVERYONE needs to understand, is in every league there will be things that are overlooked in the original rules, which is why we asked everyone before and have continued to throughout the season if anything needed clarified or cleaned up, obvioulsy no-one notices most until they come up. At which time we are forced to address them under less than ideal circumstances.

We are currently working on a set punishment for violating the cap floor, that we will input for next season. but in the meantime, the fine of 250k was issued in a crunch because we were left with out pants around our ankles and no set way to enforce it.

Counter productive?  Why?  This hurts a team because they now have to make up for the 4 million in salary they lost and if they don't then they lose their next highest paid player.  That's a punishment in my books.  They lose their highest paid player because that is the rule, plain and simple.  You can't have two seperate rules for the same offense? 

PHO wrote:

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So in the meantime the teams will lose their highest paid player and the rule will get adjusted in the off season or do they get to keep their highest paid player and get a rule change this season?

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If you read properly you'll see it never says a team in violation of the salary floor will lose its highest paid player:

B. The league salary cap is currently set at $39 million. Please stay under this ceiling at all costs.

C. The league salary floor is currently set at $21.5 million. Please stay above the floor at all costs

i. Punishment for the violation of the salary cap will be the suspension of the highest paid player of that team for the remainder of the season as well as that particular player becoming an Unrestricted Free Agent during the subsequent off season; regardless of current salary and age.

That punishment is ONLY for salary cap, the 21.5M is referred to as the salary floor and there is no punishment mentionned for that which is why it'll be addressed in the off-season.

 

-- Edited by Philippe27 at 14:03, 2007-02-13

PHO wrote:

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Oh I can read just fine. What you forgot to put in your thread is the first part to that rule you pulled out,

F. If a GM makes a trade that puts his team in violation of this limit the GM must work his roster through more trades, line juggling, waivers, or buyouts to get back over the floor and under the ceiling by that teams next games.

i. Punishment for the violation of the salary cap will be the suspension of the highest paid player of that team for the remainder of the season as well as that particular player becoming an Unrestricted Free Agent during the subsequent off season; regardless of current salary and age.

So you can see where I may have got confused. It's part two of the rule so i would assume that meant any GM violating the salary cap or floor would be hit with this suspension.

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Sorry I didn't mean to do that, I skipped over that part because I knew what I was looking for exactly as I had seen it before. I still think it's clear because it refers to the cap and not the floor although since it is a subsection of a rule that refers to both it may create confusion.

 

I've probably been the biggest supporter of not suspending Sundin, but the rule about the violating the limit/salary cap in the rules is pretty clear.

"Violation of this limit" -  A limit seems quite clear to me to mean going over the cap

As Phil posted above, the punishment of the salary cap results in the highest paid player being suspended.

There is a clear distinction between salary cap and salary floor.

What they forgot to put in, unfortunately, was the punishment for going below the minimum.

I don't agree with Sundin being suspended, but now you're really grasping at straws.

PHO wrote:

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You're right.  I must just be bitter.

Not another word about Sundin.

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Nick here...

Speak for yourself...Sundin.  There, all better now.

Here are my lines for tonights games, I will be posting all lines on the board, as it's my preferred method:

Line 1

LW - Shanahan

C - Perrault

RW - Selanne

D - Blake

D - Roszival

Line 2

LW - Stillman

C - Hrdina

RW - Whitney

D - Zidlicky

D - Brisebois

Line 3

LW - Axelsson

C - Gaustad

RW - Hall

D - Kaberle

D - Krajicek

Line 4

LW - Shanahan

C - Chouinard

RW - Ellison

D - Blake

D - Roszival

PP #1

LW - Shanahan

C - Perrault

RW - Selanne

D - Blake

D - Zidlicky

PP #2

LW - Stillman

C - Hrdina

RW - Whitney

D - Roszival

D - Brisebois

Regards.

No, I wouldn't expect that at all.  What's your paypal account, maybe I can ship $50 to you too.

Just release Brodeur, we don't need him.  It's implied that I don't want him on my team, just like the rules "imply" alot.  Same with that stunning detailed email that we received back in October which was NEVER incorporated into the rulebook.

Regards,
Nick