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Eastern Conference All-Stars


Ottawa- Ryan Miller/ Sami Salo

Montreal- Tim Thomas

Florida- Justin Williams

Tampa Bay- Alex Tanguay/ Mathieu Schneider

Boston- Marian Hossa

New Jersey- Ed Jovanovski/ Mikka Kiprusoff

Carolina- Jason Spezza

Philly- Craig Conroy/Ryan Smyth

Pittsburgh- Pavol Demitra

Toronto- Patrick Marleau/ Nicklas Lidstrom

NY Islanders- Kristian Huselius

Atlanta- Danny Heatley

Washington- Daniel Alfredsson

NY Rangers- Denis Wideman

Buffalo- Jay Bouwmeester/ Sydney Crosby

 

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Will there be a reward to the winning GM of the game>?

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Well at least it's realistic, these picks are as weird as the NHL's:

Turco    : TOT  49 2887  2.12  25  20   2   2 102 1188  .914   4  0
Kiprusoff: TOT  53 3109  2.59  24  22   6   4 134 1321  .899   2  1

C 23 Craig Conroy TOT 57 13 34 47 8 100 5 0 2 0 78 111 11.7 0 0
C 15 Vincent Lecavalier TB 53 22 33 55 15 42 6 0 7 0 103 119 18.5 0 1

 



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Turco got Rory'd

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How many players of yours do you want to go?  I was trying to make it fair and you already had two guys going!

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How many players of yours do you want to go? I was trying to make it fair and you already had two guys going!

I'm not really blaming you Rob, I just think the most deserving players should go. I can tell you built a team to win based on ratings as well and not necessarely stats which is probably what I would have done as well.

I just suggested to Eric that next year the league picks the teams so that the most deserving players make it with at least 1 per team and not the best rated ones. 

 



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Lets see your line up then, yes I wanted to win, but that didn't change who I picked, NJ has an OK defence IMO (no offence John) and I took that into consideration when I picked Kipper, he has put up very good numbers, with out a lot of defensive help in front of him.  Also I decided I didn't want any team to have over two players going and I felt Schneider deserved to go more than Turco, and you had Tanguay already voted in.  If I was that concerned over ratings I would of taken Turco and left a guy like Thomas behind and just taken some plugger from Montreal to stick on the 4th line. 

Hell there is a lot of people I could of changed up, I could of made a case for Lundqvist (and he probably should of gone taking a second look) but when I was picking the teams Vyborny was in the line up right till the end and Lundvist slipped through the cracks (sorry). There is a lot of choices I had trouble with, like selecting another LW frankly there aren't a ton of great LW's out there and I decided on Smyth because I felt he meant more to his team then some of the other possible players.  Conroy went because I was impressed with the fact that he has put up 40pts in 40 games, but a guy like Forsberg should of gotten in ahead of him(and if I was that worried about ratings he would of) but again I felt Kipper had more to do with NJ's success then Forsberg did, and since NJ had two players going Forsberg got left out, but that isn't what bugged you, it was two of your players that you felt got snubbed that is bugging!

If there was one player that I chose over another because of ratings would of been in Boston, were I took Hossa over Lupul, but even then Hossa has put up 35 points in 33 games since coming to the Bruins, and I think that is a good enough reason to get him into an allstar game, and if Bryce is that offended that I skipped on Lupul he is more than welcome to make that change!

Again lets see your team.

-- Edited by Sens at 00:55, 2007-01-26

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Based on who deserves to be there, here's my team:
Ottawa- Ryan Miller, Sami Salo
Montreal-Sheldon Souray
Florida- Henrik Lundqvist
Tampa Bay - Alex Tanguay, Mathieu Schneider, Vincent Lecavalier, Marty Turco
New Jersey- Ed Jovanovski, Peter Forsberg
Carolina- Jason Spezza
Philly-Ryan Smyth
Pittsburgh-Pavol Demitra
Toronto- Patrick Marleau
NY Islanders-Mike Fisher
Atlanta- Dany Heatley
Washington-Daniel Alfredsson
NY Rangers- Dennis Wideman
Buffalo- Jay Bouwmeester, Sidney Crosby
Boston- Joffrey Lupul

C: Spezza, Forsberg, Lecavalier, Crosby
LW: Tanguay, Smyth, Fisher, Marleau
RW: Alfredsson, Heatley, Lupul, Demitra
D: Bouwmeester, Jovanovski, Schneider, Wideman, Souray, Salo
G: Miller, Lundqvist, Turco

Yes there are 4 lightning and it may seem retarded but Schneider leading based on the Norris formula, Lecavalier 3rd for centres in scoring, Turco 2nd in save percentage and Tanguay voted in.



-- Edited by Philippe27 at 01:00, 2007-01-26

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and thats fair to the other GM's 4 Tampa players???  I guess if me trying to be fair to the other GM's and not loading up on one team, makes me look bad and make it look like I'm just selecting players because of ratings then so be it, but I think my team is fair to all the GM's and I had a reason to select every player even if the best player didn't always go, and if your going by most deserving and not best ratings Souray shouldn't go Campbell should.
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Tampa Bay - Alex Tanguay, Mathieu Schneider, Vincent Lecavalier, Marty Turco



-- Edited by Sens at 01:01, 2007-01-26

-- Edited by Sens at 01:02, 2007-01-26

-- Edited by Sens at 01:05, 2007-01-26

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and thats fair to the other GM's 4 Tampa players??? I guess if me trying to be fair to the other GM's and not loading up on one team, makes me look bad and make it look like I'm just selecting players because of ratings then so be it, but I think my team is fair to all the GM's and I had a reason to select every player even if the best player didn't always go.

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Tampa Bay - Alex Tanguay, Mathieu Schneider, Vincent Lecavalier, Marty Turco



And being fair is picking players who don't deserve to be picked just because one team is too good for the rest of the league?

Is it fair to pick a guy with a 0.899 save percentage ahead of one with a 0.914 or 0.917 save percentage just so that one team doesn't have too many players? 



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If your team is too good for the rest of the league, why aren't you the one picking the team?

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If your team is too good for the rest of the league, why aren't you the one picking the team?

Because there's randomness in FHL and I'm working on building a team for the next 4 years not just this year.

P.S. Thanks for Vinny  



-- Edited by Philippe27 at 01:13, 2007-01-26

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Like I said from the start this has nothing to do with any other GM or any other team your just upset because you felt a couple of your players got snubbed, not whats fair.

P.S. thanks for Radulov who will be better than Vinny in a year or two

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Like I said from the start this has nothing to do with any other GM or any other team your just upset because you felt a couple of your players got snubbed, not whats fair.

P.S. thanks for Radulov who will be better than Vinny in a year or two

Well first of all Radulov better than Lecavalier in a year or two HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
and second if you do feel that way you can thank Coolumbus for that one:
To TampaBay: Marty Turco, Steve Poapst, Alexander Radulov, $7,500,000
To Columbus: Dan Hinote, Mark Eaton, Tomas Vokoun

Radulov was never part of my plans although I do think he's a great player, no where close to being as good as Vinny though.

 



-- Edited by Philippe27 at 01:20, 2007-01-26

-- Edited by Philippe27 at 01:21, 2007-01-26

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Vinny is having a career year has never gotten over 78 pts and has been a plus only 3 times (counting this year) during his 8 years in the league, keep in mind I said Radulov would be a better player I said nothing about the amount of points he would put up, but since I'm sure that is all you are worried about lets compare stats:

Last year in the Q
Vinny 115 pts (44G 71A) +27 (pretty good for the Q) 1.98 PPG

Radulov 152 pts (61G 91A) +53!! 2.45 PPG

There last year in the Q during the playoffs
Vinny 41 pts (15 G 26A) 2.28 PPG

Radulov 55pts (21G 34A) 2.39 PPG (In fact Radulov was so good he was the Memorial Cup MVP)

First year in the NHL
Vinny 82 Games 28 pts (13G 15A) -19 and only .34 PPG

Radulov (On pace for) 66 Games 40 pts (22G 18A) a +9 and a .60 PPG

Radulov has blown away Vinny every time, and Radulov is putting up amazing numbers and has only played more than 15min a game once and that was only 15:09.  He has the NHL's best shooting percentage and is top 10 in rookie scoring and has only played 33 games if he had played 45+ like most of the other players he would easily be top 5.

Again thanks for Radulov

-- Edited by Sens at 01:41, 2007-01-26

-- Edited by Sens at 02:16, 2007-01-26

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