When are tags going to be decided upon? If it is whenever the GM sees fit I find one error in that system...
If we allow GMs to excercise the use of tags whenever throughout the year, a team could use a tag like the Lowe tag on a guy rated below 76 who is having an absolute break out year to sign him, when really they would be getting him for the next year which will be where he is rated likely over 76.
I think that we should only be allowed to excercise the use of tags AFTER the new ratings are out and we know who is rated what. It only makes sense otherwise someone could use the lowe and lemiuex tag to, theoretically if they do it well, sign two guys well over the 76 rating barrier.
Is that good GMing, or should it be disallowed? I think the latter otherwise UFA offseason wont be that exciting.
It's in the rules Lemieux tag players are 77ov or higher during the season BEFORE they become unrestricted. Applies to players who fall between the 70ov-76ov ranges in the season before they become a UFA . Applies to player’s 69ov and below in the season before they become a UFA .
Philippe27 wrote: It's in the rules Lemieux tag players are 77ov or higher during the season BEFORE they become unrestricted. Applies to players who fall between the 70ov-76ov ranges in the season before they become a UFA . Applies to player’s 69ov and below in the season before they become a UFA .
Actually all that says is WHO is eligible, but not when. And i see the value in having the question answered although for different reasons than Buffalo does.
Let's use Dallas as an example... This year they only have 1 player that's 77 OV or higher and going UFA, Manny Legace. Does Dallas have to decide whether or not to use the tag before or after rerates are done? The reason that it's important to know WHEN they have to decide because what if Dallas thinks that after rerates, all the players that they have that will be UFA after next season, won't be 77 OV or higher? Then their Lemieux tag will go to waste. As you have to have a player on your team for a full season, it can be risky to not use the Tag on Legace if you have to decide BEFORE rerates come out.
While I don't really feel strongly either way, I do think it would be better to force someone to decide before rerates are done. It would add an extra element of attention by the GM to decide whether or not to use it.
Doesnt it make sense that if u do use the tag, it should be based on the ratings that the player is having during the extended period of his contract? Ie if he has a breakout year then you should have to use the lemiuex tag if hes over 76. The tag is giving you the right to his breakout year, so it should be based on next years ratings.
Sabres wrote: Doesnt it make sense that if u do use the tag, it should be based on the ratings that the player is having during the extended period of his contract? Ie if he has a breakout year then you should have to use the lemiuex tag if hes over 76. The tag is giving you the right to his breakout year, so it should be based on next years ratings.
Agreed, the before re-rates thing doesn't make sense to me, but maybe I'm missing something.
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It's not like the ratings will be much of a surprise here. if a player is having a good NHL season, he's gonna have BRHL2 ratings that reflect it.
The tags must be applied ahead of the release of the ratings. After the trade deadline, till during the post-season is when you'll the opportunity to tag a player. (a rough estimate). But if the player is on your team past the deadline it's almost garunteed that he's a potential canidate for being on your team the entire year.
The ratings get worked on at the end of the NHL Season. last year we set them up before the season ended to prep, and when the stats were final we finalized everything. And we had them done relatively a few weeks later.
The above isn't set in stone, but rather to give you guys an idea.
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But Eric, do you not agree that that doesnt make any sense? The tagging criteria should be based on the ratings for which the tag will "cover" the player for. Not the season before.
I think that tagging should happen after the ratings come out and before the season begins.
Actually we had plannned on opening up negotiating for tags right away and here's the reasoning (which will answer your question Sabres).
When a player signs a tag, he cannot be dealt until the end of the next season. So if a team were to tag someone based on there rating today, he would have an effective no-trade clause for the rest of this season and next.
By being able to negotiate prior to the deadline, it allows a team to know where they stand on a guy. Hey is your potential Lemieux tag asking too much, and you want to focus on someone else, then you'd have the ability to move the player who isn't fitting your budgetary plans.
By waiting until the offseason, it eliminates any chance your team has of moving that asset, should you not like the terms his ******* of an agent wants You can be sure that locking a guy up for a year of his UFA will be negotiated as though the player has most of the leverage, because guess what, he does.
To go off ratings now allows teams more flexibility and the ability to effectively manage their budget, in the Legace example, I've talked to the GM already about it, you're right, in all likelihood, Legace would be an example you wouldnt want to waste that Lemieux tag on. He'll likely rerate in the 73-75 range, which would be a waste of that tag, but thats just my opinion.
You can be sure that locking a guy up for a year of his UFA will be negotiated as though the player has most of the leverage, because guess what, he does. 
