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I guess I should say something since a decision is going to be made on my offer for Marleau:

1. What kind of an RFA system is it if teams have to pay $150.00 to get access to the picks?  What if Colorado matches my offer - will I get my $150 back?

2. If I am not allowed to make an offer of the basis of not having paid fees for 2012-13, then the RFA system should be scrapped entirely as it makes it virtually impossible to sign someone for $5M/year.

3. I think I've shown that I have no intention of dismantling my young team any time soon...  I mean, I think Voracek, Turris and Johnson (shall I go on) are worth a lot more than my first round pick in the next three years.  Nothing is preventing me of trading all those guys for Lecavaliers or others... 

4. For this reason, the rule of requiring teams to pay in advance to trade picks should be view on a case-by-case basis...  It seems absurd that I should be prevented from trading some assets, but not others...

I await the decision of the Board.

Rob
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Either way I am going to look like the jackass here. I posted your topic on the BOD section with just teh facts of what happened. I too await their decision.


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I just think that having a player accept a bid that's less than 90% of what he should earn shouldn't happen regardless...

Maybe RFA should be before the draft, especially since we pay fees before that.... that way we have access to at minimum two year's picks to use on RFA, rather than if a GM goes by a year by year basis....

I think if Colorado chooses not to match the Ducks offer, then they should be given a set time to arrange other compensation.... trading a package that is the equivalent of three first round picks (not necessarily three former first round prospects)....

But then again, I'm not on the BOD, so I can't support my ideas....

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One more argument in favour of allowing my offer...  The rules say:

"You may not trade draft picks in the upcoming season unless you have paid for it as well."

Signing someone to an offer sheet is not a trade in my view.


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Anaheim GM wrote:

Signing someone to an offer sheet is not a trade in my view.


I would completely disagree with that statement, how is it not a trade you are sending 3 picks to Colorado for a player sounds like a trade to me!

 



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In my opinion, the "access" to the picks is predicated for their use. The rule is there so guys don't sell out their team for a run at a championship and a few bucks.

As for Rob's concerns, I would suggest that if in fact the offer is not matched, then payment to gain access to the picks should be done immediately.

I also agree with a negotiated compensation package could be able to be used in lieu of the picks.

As for the "intention" of a GM, as Rob stated. The league can't bend a rule based on "the intention" of a good GM. The league has to have a blanket rule. If compensation can't be negotiated, then I think Rob has to pay to get the picks released so they can be used.

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I think if Rob puts down a down payment though on the picks, say 2/3rds of what's needed (chances are he'll have some winnings over the next couple years) and the winnings will pay the rest.... (shows the faith I have in Rob :P)

but of course, this could all end with colorado just saying whether or not he'll match the offer sheet or not...

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BluesGM wrote:

I think if Rob puts down a down payment though on the picks, say 2/3rds of what's needed (chances are he'll have some winnings over the next couple years) and the winnings will pay the rest.... (shows the faith I have in Rob :P)

but of course, this could all end with colorado just saying whether or not he'll match the offer sheet or not...



I disagree with paying percentages and giving some GMs a break and not others.  I say if Colorado doesn't match, then he should have to pay to get access to the picks as compensation.

 



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deal with on the BOD, I have enough stuff happening than to mod a league wide debate. I've talked to Rob, we both await the majority decision amongst BOD members.

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As it looks like the BOD will rule against my offer (3-1 now with 2 votes left), I will withdraw my offer.

He'll either sign a one-year deal with Boston or Colorado...

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