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Discussion: Should the BRHL2 match the NHL and provide compensation to teams who have a prospect pass away?


Given the NHLs reaction to the death of prospect Alex Cherepanov, the BRHL2s Toronto Maple Leafs would request the same reaction from our league.  They have decided to compensate teams with a compensatory pick 1 round lower then where the player was originally picked.  

NHL general managers have given their approval to the Rangers request for a compensatory pick in Junes Entry Draft in the wake of the death of 2007 first-round selection Alexei Cherepanov, sources have told The Post.

Though it is unclear whether Article 8.3 (b) of the CBA must be amended to accommodate this specific circumstance, the Blueshirts now stand to receive the 17th pick of this years second round following Glen Sathers presentation yesterday at the NHL GMs meetings in Naples, Fla.

Cherepanov, who was selected 17th overall in 2007, died on Oct. 13 at the age of 19 after suffering heart failure and collapsing on the bench during a KHL game in Chekhov, which is just outside Moscow, while playing for Omsk."




-- Edited by GarrettLeafs at 14:56, 2009-03-11

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The Blues have no objection...

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If the NHL is doing this then I would have no real problem with the BRHL 2 following suit

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That's a very slippery slope the NHL is attempting to walk. Then you need to get into questions like: Does it matter what caused the death?

Do all other prior teams with deaths get compensation?

Cherepanov was linked to blood dopping. Does the fact that he was still a prospect, and no in the NHL have bearing on if they get a pick? Does the fact that Bourdon was in a mortorcycle accident make the Canucks less deserving?

What about if a player's value increases or decreases considerably in following year? OR what if the draft class is considerably better the following year? Say, Cherry was drafted in 2002, died, and was given a 17th overall pick in 2003? Goes from being a Niinimaki, paille, klepis, gordon, babchuk type value to a Brown, Seabrook, Bernier, Nilsson, Parise, Getzlaf, Burns type talent. Just a thought.


Just too many questions I think to make an model like that work and I'm a flames fan (obviously getting compensation for renaud would be a good thing for the flames).

It could be just me but I think it's poor form on Sather's behalf requesting it. I think it sort of trivializes his death in a way for the NYR organization.

I'd be interested to hear other thoughts. PS i'm not debating whether or not BRHL2 should match, i'll leave that for others. I think if the NHL has made this move it's a big mistake.

-- Edited by Sabres_Luke at 16:24, 2009-03-11

-- Edited by Sabres_Luke at 16:30, 2009-03-11

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I don't believe in the NHL doing it nor do I think we should do it ESPECIALLY as a sim league.  My ultimate example of why this rule should not be in place in the sim leagues is because what if Player A was drafted in the first round.  He decides to play in Europe or Russia instead of signing with his NHL affiliate.  If Player A was drafted by Team B, that player will be on the Team B's prospect list.  Team B still keeps the player on their prospect list and 4 years down the road, they come back to the NHL and now Team B was sitting on that free prospect for 4 years and gets a possible great player/veteran on an ELC.  The NHL affiliate lost their rights to him and the BRHL team did not.

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I disagree to both, the NHL and the BRHL providing compensation. This situation rarely happens and as it is unfortunate I don't believe in teams getting compensation. This just sets presidense for other type of situations and other teams finding way to get some compensation for other oddball occurances.

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I dont want to see any compensatory picks. Period.

It trivializes the player's death.

It may suck and set your team back a step because your early round pick died or had to retire for a health condition, but it sucks a lot more for the poor kids family.

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The NHL gave the rangers a comp pick for being unable to sign their first round pick to an entry level contract....

not because he deceased

Many articles have been very clear on that....


there IS a difference

so I vote NO since a brhl2 team will never have a prospect that will refuse to sign with the team that drafted him.



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I think this is my point. I would have liked to have signed him but was never given that opportunity, just like the Rangers.

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originally, i could see your point of getting a pick because of being unable to sign your first round pick.... but SJ's point does counter that very well, the rule in the nhl was that if you couldn't sign your 1st round pick, you would receive a comp pick.... however, there isn't an option for a prospect to reject playing for a team, so the rule becomes useless in a case like this

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