THN Top Prospects List?

Sabres_Luke · Guru

THN Top Prospects List?

Sabres_Luke · Guru

Or check that, it's Tsn isn't it? anyways same question.

Eric_Isles · BRHL2 Co-Commish

It's THN... The TSN is a typo that I swear I've fixed 5 times, but hasn't updated.

As far as putting a payout list, together. It will probably get done sometime with 1-2 weeks.

Anaheim GM · Guru

I had put this list together a while back... Eric, do you need a copy?

Sabres_Luke · Guru

I for one would appreciate it. Thanks Rob.

Anaheim GM · Guru

With Eric's permission, I am posting the THN top 50 BRHL prospects list:

1 Carey Price Phoenix
2 Patrick Berglund Nashville
3 Derick Brassard Washington
4 Bobby Ryan Colorado
5 Kyle Okposo New Jersey
6 Jonathan Bernier Frorida
7 Tuukka Rask Toronto
8 Shawn Matthias Atlanta
9 Steve Mason Washington
10 Gilbert Brule Toronto
11 Devin Setoguchi Buffalo
12 Claude Giroux Colorado
13 Bryan Little Florida
14 Jack Skille New Jersey
15 Luc Bourdon New Jersey
16 T.J. Oshie Florida
17 Nikolai Kulemin Buffalo
18 Ondrej Pavelec Chicago
19 Nick Foligno Montreal
20 Mason Raymond Ottawa
21 Michael Frolik Anaheim
22 Bob Sanguinetti New Jersey
23 Cody Franson New Jersey
24 Andrej Sekera Chicago
25 Brian Lee Vancouver
26 Jakub Kindl Buffalo
27 Ryan Parent Columbus
28 Leland Irving New Jersey
29 Justin Pogge Anaheim
30 Matt Lashoff Anaheim
31 Jonathan Ericsson Buffalo
32 Ty Wishart Nashville
33 Eric Fehr Minnesota
34 Al Montoya Philadelphia
35 Pekka Rinne Edmonton
36 Blake Comeau Detroit
37 Jimmy Howard St. Louis
38 James Neal Washington
39 Blake Wheeler Colorado
40 Alex Goligoski Calgary
41 Kevin Porter Washington
42 Benoit Pouliot New Jersey
43 Ben Bishop Pittsburgh
44 Taylor Chorney Atlanta
45 Brad Marchand Colorado
46 Rob Schremp Pittsburgh
47 Simeon Varlamov Toronto
48 Riku Helenius New Jersey
49 Brian Boyle NY Rangers
50 Darren Helm Florida

Total # of top-50 prospects by BRHL team:
Anaheim (3)
Atlanta (2)
Boston (0)
Buffalo (4)
Calgary (1)
Carolina (0)
Chicago (2)
Colorado (4)
Columbus (1)
Dallas (0)
Detroit (1)
Edmonton (1)
Florida (4)
Los Angeles (0)
Minnesota (1)
Montreal (1)
Nashville (2)
New Jersey (8)
NY Islanders (0)
NY Rangers (1)
Ottawa (1)
Philadelphia (1)
Phoenix (1)
Pittsburgh (2)
St. Louis (1)
San Jose (0)
Tampa Bay (0)
Toronto (3)
Vancouver (1)
Washington (4)

Sabres_Luke · Guru

I'm happy with 4, congrats NJ- 8! wow.

One thing i'd like to bring up about this system and I'd like to hear the opinions of you guys. What do you think about the definition of a prospect?

I'm stymied.

For example. How is Price still a prospect when Peter Mueller isn't?

Okay, he didn't start the year in MTL, that could be it, but once again Letang didn't start the year in Pittsburgh and he's not on there?

Okay, well what about Brule, he started the year in CLB, had 78 games under his belt last year and 61 this year, but somehow he made it?

Theres always the concern that your star like Sam Gagner or Pat Kane make you 0 money?

Anyways I'd just like to hear your thoughts. Especially guys like chicago, i'd appreciate their opinion.

PS- one list I really to enjoy is the spring HF top 50:
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/10270/hockeys_future_top50_prospects_spring20081025/

Eric_Isles · BRHL2 Co-Commish

Sabres_Luke wrote:

Theres always the concern that your star like Sam Gagner or Pat Kane make you 0 money?

I think having Kane or a player of that caliber out-weighs the payout, imo. Can't have both, so GMs can choose. Do you want the money, or a top of the line prospect. I might be going out on a limb, but I think 90% of the guys here would take the player.

Sabres_Luke · Guru

Thats moreless beside the point. Maybe I used bad examples in Kane and Gagner who made the jump to the NHL right out of juniors, same with Jordan Staal. These guys never appeared on top prospects lists cause they were NHLers before they could.

But guys like Peter Mueller, Erik Johnson, Jon Toews, Nicklas Backstrom, Milan Lucic, James Sheppard? All those guys appeared on top prospects lists for an entire year before making the jump to the NHL. They are still considered prospects in BRHL, so why wouldnt they be included in at least 1 of these lists for a payout?

With the setup we have, you cant get paid for a top prospect unless he takes at least 2 full seasons of minor league play before making the NHL after being drafted.

I agree with you, Im more than happy with what I got in toews and EJ but I just think the system is a bit skewed. No?

-- Edited by Sabres_Luke at 10:24, 2008-04-08

Hawks_G · Guru

Sabres_Luke wrote:

Thats moreless beside the point. Maybe I used bad examples in Kane and Gagner who made the jump to the NHL right out of juniors, same with Jordan Staal. These guys never appeared on top prospects lists cause they were NHLers before they could.

But guys like Peter Mueller, Erik Johnson, Jon Toews, Nicklas Backstrom, Milan Lucic, James Sheppard? All those guys appeared on top prospects lists for an entire year before making the jump to the NHL. They are still considered prospects in BRHL, so why wouldnt they be included in at least 1 of these lists for a payout?

With the setup we have, you cant get paid for a top prospect unless he takes at least 2 full seasons of minor league play before making the NHL after being drafted.

I agree with you, Im more than happy with what I got in toews and EJ but I just think the system is a bit skewed. No?

-- Edited by Sabres_Luke at 10:24, 2008-04-08

I had this argument last season. But as Eric said....cake and eat it too.

OilersBrent · Senior Member

If they are playing in the NHL then they really aren't prospects anymore. I like it how it is. You are rewarded while you are waiting to use the players on your team.

Sabres_Luke · Guru

Thanks George, I forgot about that. Fair enough. Just thought it was confusing we delayed the draft a year but we dont delay prospect rankings a year at the same time. But yeah, that is cake and eat it too...

ColoradoGM · Senior Member

I agree with Buff in the sense that when we delay the draft a year, essentially prospects should be delayed a year.. I know you can't go back, but i think delaying the draft a year may not have been the best idea. It also gives GM's who research their picks less of an advantage.

Anaheim GM · Guru

ColoradoGM wrote:
It also gives GM's who research their picks less of an advantage.

Isn't that the idea? Research pays! biggrin

Predsgm · Guru

???? MILAN LUCIC.... made the top prospects list..... i didnt see his name on the top 50 here...... did he really make it or not this season?? tahts $3.75 more Nashville will be proudly accept to their account hahaha..