wow very weird he dealt away his franchise player weeks before and who got him???

What are ya saying Kirk? I think we all know he turned around an got another franchise player in Hossa and a bunch of other very good assets, and bryce would agree he got pillaged. I know you're likely kidding otherwise I be pretty offended if you weren't. People change, Life changes.

{similar to responses I've sent to GMs who e-mailed the league}

We're looking at the situation to solve the issue as quickly as possible.   The delay in the immediate action is that it does involve multiple teams, and that there could be other issues in play.

So, in short, we're looking at this. But, also making sure we make the correct decision.


-- Edited by BryceBruins at 00:30, 2008-03-25

I'll explain my point, since this is a competitive league, and how Montreal can compete for next year, as well as this year, if the GM was going for the cup, he would keep Iginla. It makes no sense to be in the playoffs, have arguably the best forward in the game, then trade him away and shortly after resign from the league.

Iginla has 91 points in 76 games, although not having as many assists as he had last year, he's increased his goal total by 9. His DU will go up because he hasn't missed a huge amount of time and will probably rerate similar to how he was rated this year.

He traded that player for assets, the most valuable being NYI 1st. Although arguably he could still compete, he's downgraded to Havlat (27 points in 35 games) who's played in less games than he did last year and is off the PPG he was on last year. He'll downgrade in ratings next year to around 75OV if he's lucky. Not to mention his usual crappy DU will take an even bigger hit.

Now the only reason this seems a decent deal is the overpayment by Bryce to get that 1st round pick. So the trade for Montreal is:

In: Hossa, Ehrhoff, Bos 1st 09, Chi 3rd, Buf 4th, Mitchell, Petry, FC (Unknown)
Out: Iginla, Wideman, MtL 1st 08, Mtl 4th

MtL 1st, 4th > Bos 1st, Chi 3rd, Buf 4th, Mitchell
Iginla > Hossa, Petry
Wideman > Ehrhoff

I'm not really sure how Montreal comes out on top, even though Boston overpaid for the NYI 1st. Hossa has 56 points in 60 games, a far cry from the 100 points he got last year. He might not even reach the 80OV plateau next season. Everything Montreal gave up will be better than the stuff he got in return.

Now that he's resigned, it seems a similar move to what Vancouver did. Vancouver gave up assets that would have rerated better than what he gave up. That's why I compare the two as similar situations George. I'm not being an ******* here, just want to explain to George why I compared the two as similar.

Yes, Hossa will be on the team for longer than Iginla will be on for Buffalo. However, as he is an UFA after this season, it would not surprise me to see him get the maximum for a few years in a new contract. That means if Montreal keeps him for the full 5 years after his current contract, he'll probably get upwards to 10 million a year. So after four years, Iginla will have made 24 million, Hossa will have made 30. If we throw in the fact that Iginla gets tagged, then it becomes, Iginla makes 30, Hossa 40. That difference in salary is what changes things for me.

I will admit that the trades Phil made did not leave any stench like the ones Michael made while he was in charge of Vancouver. My only problem was that he traded away one of the best forwards in the game for two years for a pick that would surely see a star forward in the next few years, then traded it away for a franchise forward that has struggled (compared to Iginla) this year.

If Phil stayed then I wouldn't have any problem with the deal, as I understand (from another GM) he had a major change happen and I can understand that. However, the timing of the two I can't ignore.

From Phil:

I wish I did not have to write this email because honestly it is a waste of both mine and your time. I am writing in regards to the uproar over my departure and the trades I made before I left.

I would like to first say that my intentions were to stay in the league at the time of the deals, although I was contemplating the idea of leaving. My reasons for leaving were mostly due to time restrictions. I did not have the time that I wanted to put in to a league of this type, my activity had dropped dramatically in the past few months and that was not fair to anyone. Further more, I was coming to the realization that the time I was able to put into the league compared to the time others were putting in meant that I had little or no chance of ever being overly successful in the league. In a pay league, that means I'm more or less throwing away cash.

Now that you know why I left the league, I would like to tell you why I think that the deals I made should not be overturned.

1) Time. The time that not only I put into those deals, but others as well was countless hours. The Iginla deal its self took months to finally work out. Bryce can attest to the time he put in making those deals.

2) Repercussions. I'm sure that some trades I made caused other teams involved to make other deals that would not have otherwise been made if it not for the deal I made with them.

3) Respect. I would like to think that I treated the operators of the league with the utmost respect and dignity. I would like to receive the same. Overturning my deals holding it to a benchmark set by the Vancouver situation is like a slap in the face. I left my team with a future, and some would argue the team is better after the deals, and donated my picks to the new GM. I could have sat idly by waiting to quit even though my mind was made. I could have made terrible draft picks, but instead I left the new GM with control of their own future and even a good pick in 09. Vancouver went out to destroy what was left of his team. I attempted to do what was right. I feel that the complaints that you have received are more or less sour grapes. Becasue of me Buff should probably win the cup hands down. Becasue of me Bryce will probably get the top 2 picks in the draft and because of me MTL will have a good future with a new GM.

Ask your self what changed once I quit? I am not active any more, and now am just as active as I was in the weeks before I quit, next to no activity. My team is basically the same on paper, change iggy for hossa and wideman for erhoff. Teams simply are viewing this as a way to weaken their strongest opponents. Contenders hate the deals cause Buff is by far the best. Rebuilders hate it cause Bryce got what they all wanted. If need be, to save the deals I made I will come back and finish the season. But the objective of overturning a deal is to safe a Bad GM or a failing team. Not just because someone quit. maybe every time someone quits all the trades should be overturned. THe only thing that went wrong here is that I quit to soon to the trades being made.