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Eric_Isles


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The Olli Jokinen Rule
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Some may, Some might, Some won't know the story behind this rule.

Here's a refresher: Olli Jokinen, acquired by BUF. BUF provided the league with a handful of sources that list him as a Center. But also include him as a Center who can play forward - meaning a wing (if needed). Jokinen was moved to Wing. All hell broke lose over a position change. Jokinen stayed a wing, despite official clarification stated in the rules.

So now here we are. Something I've had in the back of my head since this started. The induction of a rule. The Olli Jokinen rule.


The Olli Jokinen Rule:
Given that this is fantasy, and that is based on the NHL and all that, we don't have complete control over GM and coach discretion for managing our squad. With that being said, there are certain instances in which we have to follow what has been done in the NHL, but not what could be done in the NHL.

Therefor, we've had to rely on a precedent. Without the ability to venture in certain directions.

So the Olli Jokinen rule will allow teams 1 ONE 1 ONE 1 UNO position changes of a FORWARD's position on the top 2 lines. Giving a GM the ability, "in a pinch" to move around their lineup to put more quality on their top 2 lines without having to refer to other sources.

You can't trade your Rule. (can't believe I have to even mention that)
You don't have to use it.
You don't have to use it now.
You only get 1.
You can switch back your player to his "sourced" position at any time, but once you use the rule it's gone (Much like the Captiancy and Tags).
You have free reign to move a forward to a specific position on the top 2 lines.
Your position change must keep the player on the top 2 lines.

I believe that's about it. Feel free to ask any questions, I'll try to answer them, considering how busy I am.

I would ask of you not to bring up the literal difference between this rule and how Jokinen actually became a Winger or I swear to god I'm going to wal-mart and buying a gun. :)

You can post your selections here in this thread.



P.S. Buffalo used it's rule if they chose to play Jokinen at Wing.


P.S.S. Something I can't believe I never thought of, but a new addition to position sources this year will be The Hockey News depth chart index. Located near the back of each weekly issue (I have a subscription). I will accept a position chance as long as its within a month of that publication.


Let the bitching commence:

-- Edited by Eric_Calgary at 01:22, 2007-08-25

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bitching comment number one.. so what site are we using? and like on tsn where it says can play in a pinch does that enable him to be moved back and forth or are we using only the position they are listed at on the site?


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I dont get it. So if there is a source that says they can play wing and C and you want to move them one way or another, that still counts as using your Jokinen position change?

Are we disbanding sources all together or whats going on?

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i think whats going on is we can all choose one player on our team that will play in our top 6.. and he can be moved from center to wing.... like jokinen did for your sabres..

from now on tho i think the league will only be using the sites and the POSITION LISTED..
not from a blurb in the writers OPINION on the player...




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I think what Kirk is saying is what Eric is driving at.  In the actual profile where the position is listed, that is all you can use (from the official sources).  One exception per year (like Jokinen for example, who we all know only plays C in the NHL as listed by all the official sources used in this league).
I really don't see the point in this whole thing, I think it is overcomplicated and unnecessary.  One more thing for Eric to have to look after.  In any good leagues I have been in, the only position changes that can be made are only taken from the listed position in the profile of a few select sources.  If you want to play a guy out of position you are free to dress him there when you make your lines using the GM Editor.

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i agree 100% with minnesota why over complicate it?

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but if its a rule the thrashers are happy to announce the top line center for next season will be dany heatley.

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I say that we have all players revert back to their profile positions. Screw the complications...and that would screw us too because we would have to move Zeus back to C and make some deals.


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i agree this would be a good thing for the league putting everyone back to original and realistic positions...

hear are my thoughts about player movement.


1)minimize the internet sites to TSN/ESPN/NHL.com/NHLPA.com

2) only allow a player to change positions if the site LISTS them at two different positions. (thus these multi position guys become more valuable) example; alexander semin is clearly listed as a LW/RW,, not blurbed about saying could play another position such as center or defense. clearly shows lw/rw--

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=3065&hubname=nhl-capitals



-- Edited by HOTLANTA at 04:35, 2007-08-25

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This is a bit of a stupid rule because teams will go against the interest of this league and put a Winger at centre because his ratings are better suited for a C eventhough e's never played that position in his life.

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I think this rule is kinda bushleague too. It was simple how it was.

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in that case we'll be looking forward to seeing jokinen at center :)

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lol yeah, and we're going to put kopitar 3rd line C... right.

Well, whatever, if this is the way Eric and Bryce wanna do it then thats fine by me.

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lol, seriously though....



eric is just trying to incorporate the aspect in the NHL of being able to shift some guys around...


not sure why we're all worried about this, but I think its a good rule...

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Is it a rule that can be used once a year? If so, does the other player go back from year 1?

Can Wingers move to C? It's a lot more realistic to have C's move to wing then the other way around. Don't think Jerome Iginla (just an example of a pure RW) would ever realistically play C or LW.


It's a pretty fair rule though, i agree.


-- Edited by Sabres_Luke at 18:21, 2007-08-25

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