Tampa for GM of the Year

Jackets1 · Veteran Member

Tampa for GM of the Year

Jackets1 · Veteran Member

But seriously I would vote for Tampa

2nd round of the playoffs (possibly further)

Has made the most money of any team by far

Top 3 in message board posts

Insightful message board commentary

Sucks up to Bryce and Eric

Has easily the best team for Season 2

I think it's clear, Tampa Bay for GM of the Year

VanIslander · Guru

Jackets1 wrote:
Sucks up to Bryce and Eric

Not a sufficient condition and maybe not even necessary, but relevant.

Philippe has not made the most trades or the best trade, nor has the most participation or the best team this season or the best crop of prospects, and it's too soon - with free agency options and off season re-signing - to speak about next season, but...

all things considered, he is consistently high on almost all criteria

so he gets my vote as well

WildJamie · Senior Member

Jackets and Lightning need to get a room... seriously... the love fest is getting a little out of hand to continue in public ;)

Jackets1 · Veteran Member

LOL FOOOOORE biggrin

PHO · Senior Member

Outraged? Wow, try relaxing a bit. It was all in fun.

Why didn't he just post this himself? Afterall, he is in the top 3 of message board posts.

Here are reasons why we should win:

1) we are in the bottom 3, shooting for the bottom, of message board posts
2) the future of our team was expensed for a cup run
3) we do not have draft pick next season PLUS our team is full of UFA's at seasons end
4) we clearly do not suck up to the commish's
5) we get a kick out of not responding to the useless banter on the message board and then get questioned about our participation in this league
6) we actualy have a life outside the brhl......i know, this comes as shock
7) we enjoy the occasional beer (this should grab a few votes)
8) we lost our #1 centre and still managed to finish first in the league (probably the only positive in this list if you do not count #7
9) how the 3 of us have co-existed as a gm's of a sim team is an incredible feat since I hate, no wait, that is not strong enough, since i LOATHE the other two, should be the very reason why we should win it
10) And last but definitely not least, we really don't care if we win it or not.

Dan "going to sacrifice getting last place in message board posts with this post" Phoenix Co-GM

-- Edited by PHO at 09:33, 2007-04-25

San Jose · Senior Member

Well, in my little "non-playoff team" opinion....any GM who violated the CAP rule should not get any consideration for GM of the Year... how can you be a great GM if you broke the rules..

GM of the year is an active GM who has had success THIS season and has built a healthy franchise for the future...

-- Edited by San Jose at 10:03, 2007-04-25

PHO · Senior Member

I totally agree with you San Jose.

That's why my post was totally in a joking manner. Sorry, i thought it was pretty obvious.

See, this is why i don't put posts up!

OilersBrent · Senior Member

Criteria for GM of the year shouldn't include most posts made. Not all of us have that kind of time or just don't want to spend it making mass posts on a message board.

There are many GMs who have done a great job this season. Some put all their eggs in one basket to win it this year and some decided to take a building approach. I think recognition should be given to both. Some may say it's easier to trade away the future than it is to build for it.

San Jose · Senior Member

PHO, i did understant the tone of your post...my msg wasnt meant as a shot to you..i dont take shots at people...

Oilers, i agree 110%...winning isnt everything..but it cant be ignored either....

When its time to nominate GMs for this award.....i expect things to rumble..haha

just a random example...

Is Team A a better GM because he rented some talent and is making a cup run..but is full of UFAs and will likely need to dump big contracts in the offseason to stay under the cap

or

Am I a better GM by drafting young NHLers like AO, Parise, Horton, Mezaros etc.. and trading for Eric Staal, Wolski, Michalek, J.Johnson etc.. Loading up with young inexpensive talent who will get great rerates..allowing me to have TONS of cap room to go after the Jagrs and Lindstroms to compliment them.....however, i finished 6th from last in Season 1

The way i see it, Team A arguably has a chance to win Season 1...but i have a chance at winning season 2,3,4,5.....

PHO · Senior Member

San Jose wrote:

PHO, i did understant the tone of your post...my msg wasnt meant as a shot to you..i dont take shots at people...

Oilers, i agree 110%...winning isnt everything..but it cant be ignored either....

When its time to nominate GMs for this award.....i expect things to rumble..haha

just a random example...

Is Team A a better GM because he rented some talent and is making a cup run..but is full of UFAs and will likely need to dump big contracts in the offseason to stay under the cap

or

Am I a better GM by drafting young NHLers like AO, Parise, Horton, Mezaros etc.. and trading for Eric Staal, Wolski, Michalek, J.Johnson etc.. Loading up with young inexpensive talent who will get great rerates..allowing me to have TONS of cap room to go after the Jagrs and Lindstroms to compliment them.....however, i finished 6th from last in Season 1

The way i see it, Team A arguably has a chance to win Season 1...but i have a chance at winning season 2,3,4,5.....

The way I see it is that winning now has to be weighed much more heavily than what the team MAY do in the future. Folks, the whole point of competition is to win. Now if I make my team a bit weaker for the next 2 years, but win the Cup over 29 other teams, does that not give me a leg up? So, let's say Team B has set himself up for a bright future, and MAY or MAY NOT win the cup the next 4 years.....I don't see how that should affect voting for THIS YEARS GM of the year, not the GM of the Future....too much stock is put into what a team MAY do next year. Well wouldn't it look silly if GM A is voted GM of the year because he made the playoffs finishing 6th in his conference (complete random example here, no slight meant towards any 6th place team, I don't even know who is in 6th in each conference), but his team looks like a strong contender for the next 3 years....but then the next 3 years this same team, who won this years GM of the Year award, made the playoffs but won nothing of substance? Don't get me wrong, there are many variables....but the whole point of competition is winning, and that should be weighted most heavily. NOT the amount of trades made. Hell, I can go and make 40 trades in a season, but what's the use?? I'd rather be a GM that sends his lines in and makes zero trades, and sits in the background, because the team was drafted with a mission, to WIN.
This award is not called the "GM of the year based on what MAY happen next year, and the year after that." It's called GM of the year for a reason. This in no way is meant towards gaining votes, because quite frankly i couldnt care less, i just want the Cup. I just get very annoyed when all people do is look to the future. Sure, it's fun building a team that can compete for years and years, but your window of opportunity to win a cup is so small, because there are TWENTY NINE other teams going for the same goal. So if you can win it now, why not? If you have to get a bunch of UFAs but you win the cup, isn't that SMART??? You won the damn cup!!!! I don't care if i dont have any top prospects for the next 10 years, i can say i won a cup, and YOU CANT!!

-- Edited by PHO at 12:17, 2007-04-25

PHO · Senior Member

SJ - I know. I didn't take any offence. I just wanted to make sure people got that I was just trying to be funny. Some will laugh, others won't.

I do think a team that had a successful present year should win it though. not a team that has built themselves for future years because we will not know how successful those moves are until year 2,3,4 and 5. The way I see it, the GM who built a strong team via the draft and through trades and is successful this year should win it but that's just my opinion.

And I totally agree, a post shouldn't mean anything when it comes time to vote.

Every GM has his own interpretation of what it is they are looking for in the GM of the year and the voting will be done accordingly.

I for one, am not going to put up a (serious) post as to why we should win it because I am not going to change peoples mind, nor do I want to.

Dan

PHO · Senior Member

Hey nick, how about we worry about getting past the first round first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yikes, Colorado is giving us a run!!

PHO · Senior Member

PHO wrote:

Hey nick, how about we worry about getting past the first round first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yikes, Colorado is giving us a run!!

Jerk, I wasn't making the "i have a cup comment" on our behalf...i was just sayin' that any team that wins it can say that....i ain't jumpin' the gun on this season, because as TB mentioned, I smell a first round elimination.

Sabres · Guru

As far as GM of the year goes. I think TB has done a great job. However, I'd like to know what the criteria is for it?

I mean someone could step in to a team like St louis, who did horribly and not take them to the playoffs but secure a competitive team for the future for a few years which would be an incredibly successful year but I think for this we should look at where the GM started the year to where the team is at the end. Which still probably is TB.